Best and worst PFF grades from Panthers' Week 4 loss to Bengals

[strato]

2 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://x.com/justindolloff/status/1841542139890614390?s=46&t=xeIgh_-Vr2aKxBkBJdfnKA
 

 

I giving this one a WOW.

 

I haven't really watched the games for defensive tidbits yet. Maybe DJ benefits from the increased load and gets his footing. We do some edge setting along with the rushing.

[AggieLean]

O line is set, but they still should draft some pieces to keep improving that unit. Offseason should be about fixing the defense. I think we should wait on QB unless you can get someone like Ward in the 2nd 

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I'd just get backup as close to Dalton as I could get and take a flier on any other young QB that Canales likes and we can get for a bargain whether it's draft or trade or UDFA whatever. 

And yeah use the high picks and most FA to get straight on D. 

Edited October 3, 2024 by strato

[WhoKnows]

17 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Well would you prefer he doesnt develop at all? We drafted him it’s done, let’s hope it pans out. 

Yep, that’s what I said. If he suddenly becomes Julius Peppers that would be nice.

17 hours ago, NAS said:

Exactly, we have to develop rotational players, not just starters.  Not every draft pick has to be a starter.  

We have nobody at edge right now. I’d expect a 26 year old that we used a 3rd and 4th on would be developed.

It amazes me how low our expectations are right now that a guy with 1 TFL and 1 QB hit and a half sack in 4 games is a feel good story.

We need more than a feel good story. I’d bet there is at least one bench edge player on the other 31 teams that could step in and start for us right now. DJ Johnson is tied for 189th place in sacks with a half sack. That’s basically 6 guys for every team with a sack.

I don’t know why, but it annoys me when guys get lauded for below average play with no real impact. Our OL is having a huge impact, as is Dalton, but DJ is far from impact and hopefully gets replaced in the draft.

[TheSpecialJuan]

14 hours ago, AggieLean said:

O line is set, but they still should draft some pieces to keep improving that unit. Offseason should be about fixing the defense. I think we should wait on QB unless you can get someone like Ward in the 2nd 

Set for this season - keep in mind, Corbett and I believe Moton will be UFA

[jb2288]

On 10/2/2024 at 4:32 PM, strato said:

Good stuff. If you go all the way down to 43 you can find a 6th overall pick in his 3rd season.  
 

Icky’s 17 losses matches the combined total of Hunt, Lewis, Corbett and Motion. 
I don’t see Zavala. 
 

 

Just imagine if we took the easy layup and drafted Cross. This could be an all time passing OL 

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I mean, LOT seems the likely spot to produce the leader in that category, but it seems like a lot .

[Carolina Cajun]

On 9/30/2024 at 7:08 PM, jb2288 said:

Oof we are going to miss Shaq but nice to see DJ developing. Looks like Zavala has turned into the better guard over Brady as well 

Yea, I actually thought he played pretty decent. It was the kind of play you want to see from a backup oline.

[Basbear]

21 hours ago, strato said:

I'd just get backup as close to Dalton as I could get and take a flier on any other young QB that Canales likes and we can get for a bargain whether it's draft or trade or UDFA whatever. 

And yeah use the high picks and most FA to get straight on D. 

If this OL stays like the first 4 weeks, you will have QBs asking to sign here. That was my whole point about the QB- build the team, but tepper was tired of waiting. I know for a fact he told many in BOA that watson would be a panther and stafford came was close too. The deal with baker and darnold, the team around them is better including the staff which is what has plagued the panthers. 

6 years is long time to wait and when they could not find a QB savior, they drafted/forced one. That has proved to be the biggest mistake. 

This OL is not allowing pressures and able in the run game. Got two young talented WRs and a TE that could turn a corner too. There are other darnolds and bakers like QBs just looking for a the right fit. If brooks can catch it also adds. Theres a decent group for 2025 and who knows about the cuts, geno smith could be cut. I think they sign drew lock and try to surprise the league.

Build the whole team and QBs will come.

[strato]

1 hour ago, Basbear said:

If this OL stays like the first 4 weeks, you will have QBs asking to sign here. That was my whole point about the QB- build the team, but tepper was tired of waiting. I know for a fact he told many in BOA that watson would be a panther and stafford came was close too. The deal with baker and darnold, the team around them is better including the staff which is what has plagued the panthers. 

6 years is long time to wait and when they could not find a QB savior, they drafted/forced one. That has proved to be the biggest mistake. 

This OL is not allowing pressures and able in the run game. Got two young talented WRs and a TE that could turn a corner too. There are other darnolds and bakers like QBs just looking for a the right fit. If brooks can catch it also adds. Theres a decent group for 2025 and who knows about the cuts, geno smith could be cut. I think they sign drew lock and try to surprise the league.

Build the whole team and QBs will come.

My Canales approval had a large element of the QB whisper stuff.

Having a coach with those skills in place here when scouting Young's replacement was big positive for me.