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Week 6 Non-Panthers Games


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47 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We absolutely need to get the #1 pick.

 

These teams like Jacksonville who already have a QB will just trade it to a QB needy team like Vegas/Cleveland.

 

I prefer we get the #1 pick and trade back. We need more than a QB and I'm not high on any of these QBs.

Do the Jags have a QB?

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I'd rather draft a clear bust like Bryce, someone you can move on quickly from, over someone like Lawrence that can fool you into thinking you have a franchise QB but really you have complete mid. In that regard our season has been a complete success. We know we don't have a QB and need to find one. The Jags are going to convince themselves that its everybody elses fault except Lawrence and be stuck another 5 years.

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17 minutes ago, csx said:

Lawrence blows

The Jags are a perfect example of why you can't pay JAG starting QBs like franchise QBs. Honestly, if you don't have an MVP caliber QB you're better off just letting him walk and starting over because as soon as you pay that JAG what any starting QB is going to command to re-sign now you're fuged. Now that guy can't carry your team with the holes that cap space eating contract is going to create.

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16 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The Jags are a perfect example of why you can't pay JAG starting QBs like franchise QBs. Honestly, if you don't have an MVP caliber QB you're better off just letting him walk and starting over because as soon as you pay that JAG what any starting QB is going to command to re-sign now you're fuged. Now that guy can't carry your team with the holes that cap space eating contract is going to create.

This is a good point and something that has been discussed on the Athletic football podcast a few times.

Right now it only makes sense to pay true game changers at QB: Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, etc. OR pay someone like Baker or Geno mid tier money. Yes you might not get top flight QB play with Baker or Geno each week but the alternative is overpaying for a Baker or Geno level player at max value. 

the other option is to just keep drafting QBs but this has a really high bust rate and it takes time to develop those guys 

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Dead serious what do you think it would take Jax to trade Lawrence this offseason (I am not adovcating doing this) but with his contract and current level of play it might only be like a third or fourth rounder. Doesn't fit our timeline at all and we need picks but a team like the NYG might pull the trigger 

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    • Anyone else remember back in 2010 when Fox piloted having music under the in-game replays during one of Carolina's games? Not the commercial bumpers but the actual replay clips that the announcers would talk over. Pretty sure it was vs the 49ers. And it was terrible. Point being, Carolina continues being so bad that we get the networks trying things out during their games.
    • Is it bad I found this video more hilarious than pathetic? I am still laughing at that one play where half the people on the field ran into each other and Bryce still couldn't see Chuba wide open... Also laughing at Cade blocking nobody and somehow losing his cleat Man this offense is a poo show
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