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18 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not giving him a pass, I didn't like this past draft and haven't been wrong about many of the picks(Wallace perhaps). 

Just saying you can't put TMJ in his lap, he literally wasn't here.

Right. I'm just saying it is baffling that we are still drafting receivers like that and not placing a higher value on route running or hands.

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1 minute ago, Huffgolf30 said:

XL will be a solid WR for us, but he's def not a #1. We need "that dude". We prob could have drafted him in the 2nd or 3rd. Morgan reached at #32

There are about five WRs in the NFL at any given time who meet these mythical "#1 WR" criteria of Panthers fans. It's pretty wild considering that we're a franchise that has had all of three quality long-term WRs in the history of the franchise. Smitty, Moose, and Moore. That's the whole list. 

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

There are about five WRs in the NFL at any given time who meet these mythical "#1 WR" criteria of Panthers fans. It's pretty wild considering that we're a franchise that has had all of three quality long-term WRs in the history of the franchise. Smitty, Moose, and Moore. That's the whole list. 

Thielen is better than Moore 

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6 minutes ago, Huffgolf30 said:

XL will be a solid WR for us, but he's def not a #1. We need "that dude". We prob could have drafted him in the 2nd or 3rd. Morgan reached at #32

Nah he would've been gone by 40, let alone the third round. He was not a reach.

But he's not good, so that's another notch in Morgan's bust belt.

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39 minutes ago, frankw said:

Right. I'm just saying it is baffling that we are still drafting receivers like that and not placing a higher value on route running or hands.

Considering they promoted from within it's really not all that surprising. I believe they made some changes to the pro-scouting department, but college scouting remains unchanged from the Fitterer days AFAIK.

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16 minutes ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

Considering they promoted from within it's really not all that surprising. I believe they made some changes to the pro-scouting department, but college scouting remains unchanged from the Fitterer days AFAIK.

Yes the college scouting dept has remained unchanged despite the changes in the front office. Which is downright criminal considering our drafts the last few years.

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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Yes the college scouting dept has remained unchanged despite the changes in the front office. Which is downright criminal considering our drafts the last few years.

On paper, agreed. But ultimately you can have the best scouts in the world and it doesn't matter if the actual decision maker's don't listen to them and go with their own picks instead. Good information can't overcome bad decision makers.

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24 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

On paper, agreed. But ultimately you can have the best scouts in the world and it doesn't matter if the actual decision maker's don't listen to them and go with their own picks instead. Good information can't overcome bad decision makers.

Davante Adams was told by Carolina the panthers were going to draft him. 

for low information fans (Bryce supporters) don’t look up that draft. 

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