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7 minutes ago, Shocker said:

If it stays like this it is extremely likely he will be available 

There is a better chance we're in the 5th slot at the end of the day than the 3rd

Patriots are down 10-0 already, once they lose, we fall to 4th.

We're also now currently tied with the Jags on SOS.  I'm not about to do the research to figure out who has to win/lose the rest of the day (and tomorrow) to change each team's SOS, but I'm sure there are scenarios where our SOS becomes tougher than the Jags before this weekend is over and we then fall to 5th at the moment.

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5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

There is a better chance we're in the 5th slot at the end of the day than the 3rd

Patriots are down 10-0 already, once they lose, we fall to 4th.

We're also now currently tied with the Jags on SOS.  I'm not about to do the research to figure out who has to win/lose the rest of the day (and tomorrow) to change each team's SOS, but I'm sure there are scenarios where our SOS becomes tougher than the Jags before this weekend is over and we then fall to 5th at the moment.

Vegas is going to win another game I believe, I’m not sure we will.  Giants have number 1 on lock I think

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4 minutes ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Vegas is going to win another game I believe, I’m not sure we will.  Giants have number 1 on lock I think

And they might, but that has no bearing on the fact that we're not going to be in the 3rd pick position by the end of this weekend.

My dream scenario is the Raiders end up one pick behind us and we can leverage the threat of trading the pick to another team into them giving us their 1st rounder next year (and maybe more) so they can get their QB and then we still get to pick whatever other player we wanted.

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1 hour ago, PappyMay said:

The last part is my biggest fear. I’ve been touting Mason Graham over Tmac because I didn’t even think Hunter would be an option for us after the last few weeks.

I would be fine with Graham if Hunter/Tmac are not a option. I guess he's the next best defensive player after Hunter.

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9 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I am seeing we moved down to 5th

literally what I pointed out like 2 hours ago, that we were more likely to be in the 5th spot than the 3rd before today ended.  And we could very well move right back up to 4th before this week's games are over anyways.

No matter who wins the Bears/Vikings game, the Jags SOS improves as their SOS is below .500.  But if the Vikings win, as expected, ours will fall because of it.

Unfortunately the same thing is set up in the Raiders/Falcons game but in reverse, and worse, as both us and the Jags played the Raiders, but we play the Falcons twice, so if the Falcons win, it hurts our SOS double.  A Falcons though would hurt out SOS doubly, and thus help our draft positioning).

But then if the Packers beat the Seahawks tonight, that then also hurts the Jags SOS.

I'm not going to try and do the math on it all to figure out, because it doesn't really matter with 3 weeks still to play, but it just goes to show how volatile SOS can be in the end and is the first tiebreaker for draft positioning (worse SOS gets the higher pick).

Especially as the Jags and Raiders play each other next week, and with the Raiders much tougher SOS than us and we're tied with the Jags, if we lose next week, we jump ahead of whoever wins that game anyways (and if the Raiders beat the Jags, it could also mean we jump both if the Jags SOS ends up going higher than ours too).

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It's weird Sanders is making videos about Vegas and NY as if he's sending a message these are the 2 teams he would play for.

 

Going to be interesting to see who tanks the most down the stretch. Either way I think he has guaranteed himself to be the #1 pick. I think Ward goes to the team who misses on Sanders.

 

That leaves New England/Jacksonville/Tennessee/Cleveland/Carolina battling it out for the Hunter sweepstakes at #3.

 

I'm 100% positive the first 3 picks will be Sanders/Ward/Hunter. After that the draft starts.

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