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Prime Cam Newton vs Current Josh Allen


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3 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

Allen. He is going to break all of Cam's records. And by "Cam's records", I mean the ones people use to say Cam was so great/different. But Allen has more tools than that. You won't hurt your Panther fandom to admit Allen is a better QB.

It's true but Cam had a much bigger and likeable persona. 

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is like somebody arguing over who is the hottest Playboy centerfold acting like some are beneath their standards while they're out there striking out on threes at the local dive bars.

For the love of god we'd give the entire organization to include Bank of America stadium for either.

At least it's something to discuss other than another embarrassing season. 

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the better question:  Who will have the longest career--Cam was about a decade--All it takes is one freak injury or the wear and tear starts setting in, causing you to do things differently (mechanics).  then other injuries set it.  Josh has been in it for 7 years--we shall see.

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32 minutes ago, Panthering said:

It has undeniably become Josh Allen at this point, it's ok to admit that. I could still argue that Cam is a better short yardage running QB but Josh is better than at him at pretty much everything else.

I just wish we'd built an offense around Cam like Buffalo has for Allen. We never had the weapons they have. Not that we didn't try, we just chose poorly with guys like KB and Funchess and lesser Kalil.

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6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just wish we'd built an offense around Cam like Buffalo has for Allen. We never had the weapons they have. Not that we didn't try, we just chose poorly with guys like KB and Funchess and lesser Kalil.

Dave was determined to get him receivers with long arms because Cam tended to throw high. Disregard the fact his line couldn't block the hallway at a nursing home and give him time to pass without having to jail break out of the pocket. Such a sad waste of talent. 

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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I never understood the "catch radius" argument. A receiver that can get open and create separation has a much larger "catch radius" than a blanketed big receiver who can't separate. We constantly asked Cam to make the hardest throws a QB has to make while also usually carrying the running game and then people wanted to bitch when he missed a throw. Like y'all, take this guy away and we have no offense. Then it happened and those same people still want to look in the rearview and bitch about Cam not being perfect. We broke Cam and we still haven't recovered from it and a lot of us were telling the naysayers this the whole time. Bitch and moan but you'll miss him when he's gone. Well, we were wrong. They don't miss him. But they sure do miss being relevant. They just don't want to admit that Cam was the key to the relevancy.

Basically agree 100%. Cam didn't need to be the most accurate passer to be an incredible player and quarterback, but the way he approached and played the game was ahead of his time to the point where a lot of idiot fanbase didn't really understand exactly what we had. But... Only thing I'll say is Cam also broke himself, in part, as any NFL player with his mindset would when giving it all.  We did try to provide him some support by Gettleman and Hurney were fuging idiots with how they approached that - personally I think as much or more with what coaches they brought in, rather than necessarily / only with the talent they tried to put around him. Chud was our only innovative OC in Cam's entire time as a Panther...

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