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Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.


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Allen, Jackson and Burrow have not won anything yet other than MVP trophies, like Cam. Burrow might not even make playoffs even while playing like an MVP, because football is a team sport and you need to win in every phase of the game.

the QB that Bryce resembles the most out of the ones you listed is Mahomes, whom he beat (oh wait XL dropped it). Mahomes has the SB trophies and is obviously generational - but if we can continue to build around Bryce and Bryce can keep progressing, hopefully he can follow a similar path to Mahomes.

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2 hours ago, NAS said:

Thielen is not the problem but the point is he’s our best receiver and would be #3 at best on good teams. 

A #3?  Number 2, yeah, on most teams.  We don't have to sale Thielen short just to try to make a point.  Poor drafting and development of young WRs along with other misfires in FA is why our WR corps is the way it is.  All that being said, I'd rather have an elite QB and an average WR corps than an average QB with an elite group of WRs.

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9 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

The last few seasons we've seen unprecedented Qb play. Allen, Jackson,  MaHomes, Burrow to name few. We move up to 1# to pick a micro Teddy Bridgewater. Burrow had at least 250 yards and 3 Tds the last 8 games ,and over 400 tonight.  Y'all get giddy if Bryce throws over 100 yards.  This is unacceptable in today's NFL.  

Face the facts, we need to move on.

Define your "hump?"  No, I'm serious, because the metric of success to define "getting over the hump" will be different from person to person.  I bet some think we have because Bryce is playing better and we have already won more games than last year.

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18 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Define your "hump?"  No, I'm serious, because the metric of success to define "getting over the hump" will be different from person to person.  I bet some think we have because Bryce is playing better and we have already won more games than last year.

True but compared to Super Bowl caliber or even playoff caliber QBs he still if not that impressive. Hard to see us winning a Super Bowl with a QB that struggles to throw 15 TDs a season. 

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31 minutes ago, Super Grateful said:

Allen, Jackson and Burrow have not won anything yet other than MVP trophies, like Cam. Burrow might not even make playoffs even while playing like an MVP, because football is a team sport and you need to win in every phase of the game.

the QB that Bryce resembles the most out of the ones you listed is Mahomes, whom he beat (oh wait XL dropped it). Mahomes has the SB trophies and is obviously generational - but if we can continue to build around Bryce and Bryce can keep progressing, hopefully he can follow a similar path to Mahomes.

Mahomes also throws TDs with ease and averages 20+ a season where Bryce can barely throw 15. 
His “rookie” year he threw 50. Stop comparing Bryce to one of the best QBs in the NFL. He is Bridgewater at best. Meaning he will never be the reason we are successful and will always need the perfect team around him to have any modicum of success. 
 

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm definitely curious to see how Bryce looks without Chuba. He's undoubtedly looked better recently now let's see what he looks like without the offense being able to lean heavily on one of the NFL's leading rushers this season.

We already have seen what he looks like without a running game against the Cowboys. He was awful. 

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4 minutes ago, NAS said:

You think our WR corps is average? Lol

You think Bryce is an elite QB? Lol.  It was a general statement, if I were a GM building a team with limited cap resources and I could either afford an elite QB and average WRs or pay two elite WRs and a top slot guy and get a middle of the road QB, I'm taking the first proposition every day of the week and twice on Sundays.

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