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Hot Take: This team will never get over the hump, until we move on from Bryce.

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7 hours ago, mrBdawg said:

What routes are they throwing Bryce isn’t rn? Develop leggette who’s already getting 8 targets a game he can’t do anything with? Or the UDFA possession receiver who runs a 4.6?

Bryce just threw a seam shot touchdown on the edge of the red zone then threw a 45 yard dime of a deep ball for a touchdown. And you’re still acting like he’s Teddy two gloves

If you think Bryce has the ability to fire the line drive rope throws that someone like Jameis or Wentz can throw, then I have some Arizona beachfront property to sell you.

Bryce has to have a perfectly clean pocket to step into and make a perfect throw to get the ball 50 yards down the field, at least 20 other starting QB's in this league can make that throw off base and with just the flick of a wrist.

If people want to believe Bryce can still be a good QB in this league, that's their prerogative, I'd disagree, but people can still think it.  However, even those people have to understand and admit that he just doesn't have even an average starting QB arm for the NFL.  Short of him starting to take steroids and bulk up like crazy, he'll always have one of the weakest arms of all starting QB's in the league, and that's not debatable.

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25 minutes ago, No Maam said:

Sorry just saying I don’t see a clear replacement for us to get this off season and BY at the least has done enough to still have a intriguing future… I agree we need to add “a serious “ WR 1 option and maybe another TE.. To get a clear picture..

I don't even think it needs to be a WR1 or X type. Just a guy or two that can consistently catch the ball, and make people miss and gain yards after the catch. That or get a guy in FA like Higgins or Wilson.

It really looks like JT gets open regularly, but Bryce tends to force to Thielen on those plays instead now. It feels like JT got alot more looks from Bryce before Thielen came back.

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3 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

No good WR wants Scrappy Doo Bryce young throwing to them... we'll have to over pay for a mediocre one....

If Thielen can produce with Bryce, then I'm sure a legitimate #1 WR can as well.

 

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We're barely avoiding being the worst team in the league for a 2nd straight season WITH Young on a cheap rookie deal. We move forward with him as a franchise QB, wait until he's asking for $50 mill a year (and he will) and see how the team looks like then.

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After 2 seasons if Bryce,  I may have to rethink my Panthers watching habit next season if he's still here. Canales needs to bring competition.  Huddlers getting giddy over Bryce barely reaching Daltons potential,  just sad out look.

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56 minutes ago, R0CKnR0LLA said:

Gave him an elite OLine, a top running back in Hubbard, Thielen balling out of his mind, a young rookie in Coker looking very promising... and we couldn't beat a single team with a winning record all year.

Elite Oline is a stretch. I keep seeing untouched sacks let alone speed rushers feasting on our tackles 

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5 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

After 2 seasons if Bryce,  I may have to rethink my Panthers watching habit next season if he's still here. Canales needs to bring competition.  Huddlers getting giddy over Bryce barely reaching Daltons potential,  just sad out look.

It’s kind of weird timing you’ve been obsessed with Young getting cut over the last two weeks when his QB rating is top-10 in the NFL. 

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11 minutes ago, Joe Bear said:

It’s kind of weird timing you’ve been obsessed with Young getting cut over the last two weeks when his QB rating is top-10 in the NFL. 

do you honesty believe in your heart of hearts he is currently a top 10 qb?  Forget the ratings do you actually believe that?

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