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Have to decide on a 4-3 or 3-4 line

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Right now....no. A defense heavy draft with quality picks and smart FA moves will be big for this team. No projects or lame guys coming off injuries would help. The 2025 and 2026 drafts (if worked right), they could be back in shape.

That's a heavy lift in one offseason with the caps space they are sitting on.

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How quickly people forget Derrick Brown is not a 43 DT. He's a DE & only fits a 34 scheme. Relying on Brown to control gaps for the run is crazy talk. He needs to bull rush and slant inside with someone else doing the outside contain.

I still don't think Tepper will ever decide to away from the Steeler 34 defense he loves so much.

Wanting to force a 4i tech DL into a 2 or 3 tech is asking to have the center of your defense ripped open. It's bad enough Ekwonu is playing LT, Young is playing in the pocket, Horn is forced to play umbrella zone, Shaq is forced to play ILB, and XL is forced to play over the middle. If you want to win, then you play these players at their strength position/role for most of their snaps.

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8 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

How quickly people forget Derrick Brown is not a 43 DT. He's a DE & only fits a 34 scheme. Relying on Brown to control gaps for the run is crazy talk. He needs to bull rush and slant inside with someone else doing the outside contain.

I still don't think Tepper will ever decide to away from the Steeler 34 defense he loves so much.

Wanting to force a 4i tech DL into a 2 or 3 tech is asking to have the center of your defense ripped open. It's bad enough Ekwonu is playing LT, Young is playing in the pocket, Horn is forced to play umbrella zone, Shaq is forced to play ILB, and XL is forced to play over the middle. If you want to win, then you play these players at their strength position/role for most of their snaps.

I like you and all. But crack is bad.

Brown played 4-3 in college and will do just fine in a 3T next to Mason Graham.

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For those hoping for a 4-3, I think it’s a pipe dream. Tepper is from Pittsburgh where 3-4 was been run for many years.

Evero will be leaving, Saleh is a friend of Caneles, so chances are that may be the new DC. So we will stay in the 3-4.

i have said from the beginning that without a good NT a 3-4 will never stop the run.

so if Evero or Saleh is here, we still need a solid NT

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24 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

For those hoping for a 4-3, I think it’s a pipe dream. Tepper is from Pittsburgh where 3-4 was been run for many years.

Evero will be leaving, Saleh is a friend of Caneles, so chances are that may be the new DC. So we will stay in the 3-4.

i have said from the beginning that without a good NT a 3-4 will never stop the run.

so if Evero or Saleh is here, we still need a solid NT

I think Saleh is a 4-3 guy, right? It is an attacking 4-3 that would fit Brown really well imo.

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28 minutes ago, Panther53521 said:

For those hoping for a 4-3, I think it’s a pipe dream. Tepper is from Pittsburgh where 3-4 was been run for many years.

Evero will be leaving, Saleh is a friend of Caneles, so chances are that may be the new DC. So we will stay in the 3-4.

i have said from the beginning that without a good NT a 3-4 will never stop the run.

so if Evero or Saleh is here, we still need a solid NT

Maybe thats why Rhule ran the 3-3. He gives off the impression he is building a 3-4 and then walked Burns to the line for a 4-3 each time.

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4 minutes ago, Martin said:

I think Saleh is a 4-3 guy, right? It is an attacking 4-3 that would fit Brown really well imo.

Yeah. He runs a lot of 4-3 over which utilizes the 3-tech more. Rivera/McDermott used to run a lot of 4-3 under which gave you a lot of flexibility with your Will LB (Thomas Davis). 

In SF, Saleh would run a lot of 4-2-5 with a "Big Nickel". We used to use Shaq in that role here when we had a similar defense.

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