Anyone got the draft scenarios for this Sunday?

[micnificent28]

Just curious on the range of our comes.. best case if we lose. worse case if we win, anyone?

[jfra78]

Lose and the draft boys are happy, win and complete huddle meltdown that we will hear about  for the next year and a half

[Bear Hands]

CLE and NE are ahead...highest pick is 3 if we lose.  

Games with implications w/a loss:

3 win teams (we have lower SOS than both so leap frog if we lose, they win):

Titans vs. Texans - Texans sound to be resting their starters.  Although, unsure if they want to limp into the playoffs.  And Titans could still lose to backups.  But winnable game, they did beat HOU this year before the Texans defense made a turnaround.  

Giants vs. Eagles - Eagles are resting certain starters vs the Giants.  Again, a situation where the Iggles backups could still take care of things.

4 win teams:

Jaguars vs. Colts - I don't know what will happen here.  But both teams are in disarray.  

Jets vs Dolphins - Tua is out but the Dolphins still have a chance at the playoffs with a DEN loss.  Interesting one to watch for since we have the same SOS right now. 

Raiders vs. Chargers - Chargers have playoff seeding on the line, could clean up.  

Bears vs. Packers - Seeding is on the line, Packers are not resting starters.  

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TL,DR: There's so much going on, I'm just going to split it and say we stay around 6.  There's no particular guy we're missing out on in this draft IMO.  There's no "OMG we have to get him" talent.  I don't think Graham, Johnson, or McMillan are that.  We end up where we end up.  

[NYPantherFan]

Quick look - with a loss and a lot of help, looks like we could get up to 3rd. Would need the Titans, Giants and Jaguars to all win. With a win, we could drop back as far as 9th assuming Jets, Raiders and Bears all lose.

So anywhere from 3-9 we could land. I'm going to assume we lose and rise to 5th after Jags or Titans win.

[LinvilleGorge]

Sitting at #6 right now.

#3 is our absolute ceiling and we'd need need the Pats, Giants, Browns, and Titans to all win while we lose to pull that off so yeah... not gonna happen. LOL

Win and we could drop as low as #10.

Just lose this game and let the chips fall where they may.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

 

TL,DR: There's so much going on, I'm just going to split it and say we stay around 6.  There's no particular guy we're missing out on in this draft IMO.  There's no "OMG we have to get him" talent.  I don't think Graham, Johnson, or McMillan are that.  We end up where we end up.  

Maybe, maybe not. It'll be like every other draft. There will be a couple of busts in the top 10, a couple of stellar performers, and most will be in that "good player but not what we expected out of a top 10 pick" type of guys.

[Bear Hands]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Maybe, maybe not. It'll be like every other draft. There will be a couple of busts in the top 10, a couple of stellar performers, and most will be in that "good player but not what we expected out of a top 10 pick" type of guys.

I just don't think this is like every draft.  It smells like 2013.  I just don't see the all-pro talent at the top.  It's a really poor draft at the top.  Maybe Mason Graham and Malaki Starks...but just looking relatively:    

-Mims/Fuaga would be OT1 this year easy, no questions, ahead of Banks and Campbell. 

-Hunter & McMillan are more on a Drake London level than a Chase, Nabers, or Marv. Would take Rome ahead of both.

-The top pass rushers would be going in the 20s or beyond most other years. 

-Overall, I like the interior DL, depth of the RB and Pass Rusher classes, and the safeties.  But this is a pretty iffy group compared to most years in R1.  

 

[kungfoodude]

I am thinking we end up #4 or #5. Favorable scenarios.

[micnificent28]

53 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

CLE and NE are ahead...highest pick is 3 if we lose.  

Games with implications w/a loss:

3 win teams (we have lower SOS than both so leap frog if we lose, they win):

Titans vs. Texans - Texans sound to be resting their starters.  Although, unsure if they want to limp into the playoffs.  And Titans could still lose to backups.  But winnable game, they did beat HOU this year before the Texans defense made a turnaround.  

Giants vs. Eagles - Eagles are resting certain starters vs the Giants.  Again, a situation where the Iggles backups could still take care of things.

4 win teams:

Jaguars vs. Colts - I don't know what will happen here.  But both teams are in disarray.  

Jets vs Dolphins - Tua is out but the Dolphins still have a chance at the playoffs with a DEN loss.  Interesting one to watch for since we have the same SOS right now. 

Raiders vs. Chargers - Chargers have playoff seeding on the line, could clean up.  

Bears vs. Packers - Seeding is on the line, Packers are not resting starters.  

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TL,DR: There's so much going on, I'm just going to split it and say we stay around 6.  There's no particular guy we're missing out on in this draft IMO.  There's no "OMG we have to get him" talent.  I don't think Graham, Johnson, or McMillan are that.  We end up where we end up.  

I think Hunter is that talent. He's as close to a I bet he makes the Hall of Fame guy as u can find. He is the only guy that supercedes Abdul Carter in my mind.

[micnificent28]

43 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

I just don't think this is like every draft.  It smells like 2013.  I just don't see the all-pro talent at the top.  It's a really poor draft at the top.  Maybe Mason Graham and Malaki Starks...but just looking relatively:    

-Mims/Fuaga would be OT1 this year easy, no questions, ahead of Banks and Campbell. 

-Hunter & McMillan are more on a Drake London level than a Chase, Nabers, or Marv. Would take Rome ahead of both.

-The top pass rushers would be going in the 20s or beyond most other years. 

-Overall, I like the interior DL, depth of the RB and Pass Rusher classes, and the safeties.  But this is a pretty iffy group compared to most years in R1.  

 

That's crazy. At corner specifically and possibly wr.. hunter is generational. I would wager him vs any corner in the last 5 years.

[Tr3ach]

25 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

I think Hunter is that talent. He's as close to a I bet he makes the Hall of Fame guy as u can find. He is the only guy that supercedes Abdul Carter in my mind.

I just don't see it.  I think he is a good wr and a good cb.  I don't think he's elite at either.  If he didn't play both ways I don't think he would be the first cb or wr taken. 

[Super Grateful]

Titans, Giants and Jets should go 3-0 or 2-1 today. That should get us 4 or 5 with an L right?

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Bear Hands said:

CLE and NE are ahead...highest pick is 3 if we lose.  

Games with implications w/a loss:

3 win teams (we have lower SOS than both so leap frog if we lose, they win):

Titans vs. Texans - Texans sound to be resting their starters.  Although, unsure if they want to limp into the playoffs.  And Titans could still lose to backups.  But winnable game, they did beat HOU this year before the Texans defense made a turnaround.  

Giants vs. Eagles - Eagles are resting certain starters vs the Giants.  Again, a situation where the Iggles backups could still take care of things.

4 win teams:

Jaguars vs. Colts - I don't know what will happen here.  But both teams are in disarray.  

Jets vs Dolphins - Tua is out but the Dolphins still have a chance at the playoffs with a DEN loss.  Interesting one to watch for since we have the same SOS right now. 

Raiders vs. Chargers - Chargers have playoff seeding on the line, could clean up.  

Bears vs. Packers - Seeding is on the line, Packers are not resting starters.  

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TL,DR: There's so much going on, I'm just going to split it and say we stay around 6.  There's no particular guy we're missing out on in this draft IMO.  There's no "OMG we have to get him" talent.  I don't think Graham, Johnson, or McMillan are that.  We end up where we end up.  

The Jets could leapfrog us with a loss, but they are -1 vs. Fish--I can't understand that, unless the Fish are throwing in the towel.

Jags, Giants, Jets and Titans are our best hopes to win to propel us up the draft board.  I see the Jets (Rodgers will make a statement today on his way out the door--the "enigma" and Titans as our best chance.  No idea about Jags or Giants.

I also see it rather likely that the Panthers beat Atlanta.  It is in our DNA to win meaningless games.

[kungfoodude]

19 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

The Jets could leapfrog us with a loss, but they are -1 vs. Fish--I can't understand that, unless the Fish are throwing in the towel.

Jags, Giants, Jets and Titans are our best hopes to win to propel us up the draft board.  I see the Jets (Rodgers will make a statement today on his way out the door--the "enigma" and Titans as our best chance.  No idea about Jags or Giants.

I also see it rather likely that the Panthers beat Atlanta.  It is in our DNA to win meaningless games.

No Tua, I believe. Or so it is trending.