Let's Talk Evero

[NAS]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I honestly think a lot of the shifts to 3-4 have been driven by 3-4 OLBs being easier to find in the draft than 4-3 DEs. 4-3 DEs are freaks. To be big enough to set the edge against the run and athletic enough to rush the passer all without the head start a stand up rusher has takes an athletic freak of a man.

Fair point but I think finding nose tackles is harder AND if you come across a big offensive line you’re toast against the run 

[ProcessBlue2]

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, NAS said:

Fair point but I think finding nose tackles is harder AND if you come across a big offensive line you’re toast against the run 

NTs are definitely a freak of nature too.

[ProcessBlue2]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

NTs are definitely a freak of nature too.

And half are injury prone.

[MHS831]

34 minutes ago, Udogg said:

Man.. I don't know either.  I watch certain plays and it looks like we just physically can't make them.  I really can't say if it's coaching or not.  Even when we are in position ... we usually can't make the play.  I don't know if coaching not making adjustments or coaching knows this is the best we can do... 

Yeah, but I was focused on the defenders near the WR and they were safeties and LBs on a #1 WR---I would think that part is coaching.  Bartholomew (who gave up the first London TD) was all over the WR---I was impressed, even though he did not win the battle.

[MHS831]

35 minutes ago, SurvivalSloth said:

4-3 is the way. 

I think so--and that decision needs to be made soon.

[ProcessBlue2]

Just now, MHS831 said:

I think so--and that decision needs to be made soon.

I hope its been made already and the message just needs to be delivered.

[MHS831]

32 minutes ago, falconlynx said:

I want Salah. 

We'd be awesome.

[outlaw4]

Watching this defense makes me upset. I just don't know what to be upset about.

I see the lack of adjustments down to dealing with a workplace where you're constantly firing and hiring new people. Just getting all these new players - and with many of them lacking NFL experience in general - to even understand their own assignments on a new team in such short order is hard enough, let alone coordinating with everyone else. Heard on TV today our team has played the most amount of players on the field this season. Flat out no consistency on the defensive side at all. Not necessarily trying to excuse Evero but I could easily see how he can be severely restricted on what he could call because he keeps dealing with new faces every single week.

7 minutes ago, NAS said:

Fair point but I think finding nose tackles is harder AND if you come across a big offensive line you’re toast against the run 

This is what is making me want to ditch the 3-4 altogether. I really don't like how an entire defense can fall apart by losing one player - or in our case - unable to find a good one. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, ProcessBlue2 said:

And half are injury prone.

Hard to be that big and athletic and not be injury prone. Human ligaments and tendons can only handle so much.

[Donald LaFell]

It’s clearly not all Everos fault but new blood might be what’s best. I’m fine with whatever they do. I’d rather they keep him for consistency and lots of help on that side of the ball, 

[ProcessBlue2]

I can't find any proof that Evero is actually a good DC. I mean I keep hearing it from some people, but have yet to actually see proof of it anywhere.

[MHS831]

1 minute ago, outlaw4 said:

Watching this defense makes me upset. I just don't know what to be upset about.

I see the lack of adjustments down to dealing with a workplace where you're constantly firing and hiring new people. Just getting all these new players - and with many of them lacking NFL experience in general - to even understand their own assignments on a new team in such short order is hard enough, let alone coordinating with everyone else. Heard on TV today our team has played the most amount of players on the field this season. Flat out no consistency on the defensive side at all. Not necessarily trying to excuse Evero but I could easily see how he can be severely restricted on what he could call because he keeps dealing with new faces every single week.

This is what is making me want to ditch the 3-4 altogether. I really don't like how an entire defense can fall apart by losing one player - or in our case - unable to find a good one. 

There is a strong argument to support Evero.  How much can you teach it in a week, and with a zone concept there are a lot of switches and run supports etc etc that require chemistry--but when I see Safeties covering a guy who is getting nearly half of the QB's targets and blowing us up for nearly 200 yards and 2 TDs--I can't help but think the OC was sitting in the box laughing at how easy it was--but Evero was dealt no cards, lost a lot, and is now being blamed--so where do you draw the line and point the fingers?  I don't know.

[CmC2k]

We passed over Evero for HC here twice and we denied him permission to interview for other DC jobs last year. The guy doesn't wanna be here and it'll be best for both parties to go their separate ways. Let Canales try and recruit Robert Saleh as they do have prior connections and let's switch back to the 4-3. 

I'm not saying that Evero was sandbagging but would you give 110% at a job where you were passed up on a promotion you felt you were qualified for twice and have that same company keep you from interviewing elsewhere?