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A List of Immature QBs

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1. Phillip Rivers

2. Jay Cutler

3. Tony Romo - The whole Simpson debacle and taking off to go vacation before the playoffs.

4. Eli Manning - Definitely wasn't thought of as a leader for the first probably 3-4 years of his career in New York.

5. Ben Roethlisberger - Don't get me wrong, I don't want Clausen to go out clubbing with underage girls but the Big Ben has 2 rings...

6. Vince Young - Not my favorite QB in the world but has been pretty successful.

These are just QBs that have been viewed as immature during their careers recently. Eli Manning demanded a freaking trade out of San Diego for heaven's sake and now he has a ring.

Not everyone is going to go about their business like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. I hope that is how Clausen decides to go about his business and from hearing him talk about getting into the film room early, I think he has the potential to be that kind of a QB. But I'm just not buying the whole "he's going to be a bust because he's immature" garbage. He might have been the most heavily scrutinized college QB of the last 3 years and the most trouble he ever got into was participating in the "beer olympics" at a frat house. Not too bad if you ask me...

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philip rivers is on another level of a-hole. great player grade A+ a-hole, and i wouldn't compare him to Clausen (not saying you are, just trashing Rivers for a second)

Agreed. Emotional? Yes. Opinionated? Yes. AHole? Yes. Annoying? Yes. Immature? I don't know?

I think he wants to win and believes if everyone was on the same page his team will win. Hence, the success of SD over the past few years. Rivers is not the reason SD has not been to the SB.

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Immature to me is the kid that knows he is going to the NFL combine and millions of dollars are on the line and he smokes a joint anyways.

Immature is the 28 multi-millionare that goes to college towns and tries to pick up college chicks.

Immature is not the kid that thinks he has the most ability out of a group of 10. Immature is not saying a WR ran the wrong route.

Clausen is not immature at all in my book. He may be an asshole but so am I. I would rather stand in the huddle with the guy that says "I'm the best there is, believe in me and we can win", than with the guy that says "Everybody keep playing hard we have a shot.".

All this talk about Clausen not being a leader or not being mature, go and watch some of the 4th quarters of his ND games. Tell me that kid didn't try his damndest to pick that team up and win with it. Tell me if he ever gave up even when his D gave up late game TD's. Let me know if there was ever a time when the clock didn't say 00:00 that he wasn't still playing his heart out.

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philip rivers is on another level of a-hole. great player grade A+ a-hole, and i wouldn't compare him to Clausen (not saying you are, just trashing Rivers for a second)

*Cough* UNC fan *cough cough* ahem, excuse me, I had something in my throat. You were saying?

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Before I start ranting, I do believe you do need good intangibles to be a superbowl winning QB. I really don't care that much about a guy who can get good regular season numbers if his team flakes out of the playoffs. The NFL isn't a competition to see who can get the best stats, it's a competition to see who can win the superbowl. As far as I'm concerned, you need both the production and the intangibles for me to want me on the team.

With that in mind, Clausen could end up being a Jay Cutler look-alike and I still wouldn't be happy. Cutler's a me-first type of guy. I've seen him throw picks and not even bothering to go tackle the ball carrier. You would think a leader would at least minimize the impact of their mistakes. I can't see this guy ever winning a superbowl.

Philip Rivers on the other hand is also a major douche but he's a guy who I can see winning a big game. Rivers is an us first kind of guy which is very different to what Cutler is. You see him taunting opposing players, trash talking... all sort of douchey things but at least he's a guy his team-mates can trust at least in terms of football. I think Ben falls into the same camp.

If these leadership problems are real (which I actually doubt), I'll be fine if he's a Rivers type of guy and not a Cutler type of guy. There is a big difference imo and I think it's a mistake to lump them into the same category.

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1. Phillip Rivers

2. Jay Cutler

3. Tony Romo - The whole Simpson debacle and taking off to go vacation before the playoffs.

4. Eli Manning - Definitely wasn't thought of as a leader for the first probably 3-4 years of his career in New York.

5. Ben Roethlisberger - Don't get me wrong, I don't want Clausen to go out clubbing with underage girls but the Big Ben has 2 rings...

6. Vince Young - Not my favorite QB in the world but has been pretty successful.

These are just QBs that have been viewed as immature during their careers recently. Eli Manning demanded a freaking trade out of San Diego for heaven's sake and now he has a ring.

Not everyone is going to go about their business like Peyton Manning and Drew Brees. I hope that is how Clausen decides to go about his business and from hearing him talk about getting into the film room early, I think he has the potential to be that kind of a QB. But I'm just not buying the whole "he's going to be a bust because he's immature" garbage. He might have been the most heavily scrutinized college QB of the last 3 years and the most trouble he ever got into was participating in the "beer olympics" at a frat house. Not too bad if you ask me...

Big Ben, Vince Young, Russell, Romo....immature.

Cutler...not a team player.

River and Manning 2 are totally different players, but I wouldn't call either of them an a-hole, and certainly not immature. Both are married, do not show up in the local drunk tanks, have led their teams to huge success, and are loved by their fan bases.

Manning is not fired up enough for most.....Rivers is too fired up for most, but to call either immature or a-holes is really far off base.

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You're allowed to be an asshole if you can play like Rivers. Probably my 2nd favorite QB in the league next to Aaron Rodgers.

I'd rather have a firey, competitive QB like Clausen than some shy "aw geez fellas, that was my fault!" like Bradford. Don't get me wrong I'm not doubting Bradford's skills, but I just don't like a guy with that attitude being the leader of your offense.

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