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Why is Fox out the door?

The Don

By The Don,
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CatMan72 Enthusiast

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Its very simple. If we win, Fox definitely isn't going anywhere. If we don't, Fox probably isn't going anywhere. Unless we lose 9+ games, Fox isn't going anywhere.

May not be our choice, Fox was clearly bothered by the lack of an extension last year and if they're going over his head to make personnel decisions this year then he may decide he would be better of somewhere else.

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CRA Grand Master

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Could be, but if they feel he did all that well and they go 4-12 do they offer him an extension?

At some point the W/L record has to be a factor...

I don't see the record being much of a factor.....a deep playoff run is about the only think that can save him. In order to do that with this roster....Fox will have to break habits and basically not be the guy Carolina has grown to know. He will have to prove to be more than what we know. They guy we know is a good coach, but no that type guy you want coaching for 15 years in your city b/c of his style. His style prevents you from sucking and makes consistant winning a tough feat.

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JR will be 74 this year, he doesnt have much time to waste.

Which is why I think JR is willing to sacrifice the Panthers season to cement his legacy in the NFL as one of the leaders of the owners committee who reached a new labor agreement with the players and in doing so brought player salaries under control... that's the kind of thing that will get you in the HOF.

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Fox will be back, but there's no reason to extend his contract until someone blinks on the CBA. The possibility of no NFL in 2011 has smart owners attempting to limit their guaranteed payouts to athletes and coaches that won't be taking the field in a year with no revenues.

Fox has given the team a credibility it has never had before, turning it into a regular contender. Winning season, losing season, winning season, we know the drill. But let's face it, his worst seasons here have produced no worse than 7-9.

Sure, we're not the Patriots or the Colts, we're more on par with the Eagles or Chargers over Fox's tenure when it comes to being competitive. Second tier is worth holding onto, especially if it can peak into the Super Bowl. And there is nothing to be gained by risking a slip back into the third and fourth tiers of the league.

Not even close to as consistent as the Eagles, and nowhere near where the Chargers are right now.

Fox is gone, it's just a matter of time at this point.

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The Panthers have had a much better last 8 years compared to the Chargers, plus the chargers benefit from being in a division with bottom feeder teams like the Raiders, Bronco's, and Kansas City, and, the chargers still haven't managed to put together a good play off run. The Panthers have been much more consistant and better during Fox's tenure than the Chargers for sure.

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They may wait to see how this season goes and then offer Fox an extension, but I can't see how they could be using this year to evaluate Fox with the current roster.

It's not so much about the guys we let go (besides Peppers) as it is about the guys we didn't bring in. It's clear to me that the # 1 priority this off season is to save as much $$$ as possible while still being reasonably competitive... so I'm not sure how you can evaluate a coach under those conditions?

Once again, I suspect the decision has already been made and we will allow Fox to walk after this year unless he makes a deep run into the playoffs at a minimum... and even at that, Fox may choose to go elsewhere.

I think Fox would have been gone this year if not for the lockout looming. I think the panthers are building for the next coach.

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I think it is setting up for Fox to go and Cowher to come in next year. Cowher was talking to teams this year about coming back but then he backed off and stopped talking to everyone. I'm guessing it's because he knows he'll be in Carolina next year.

we do have de's that may can play standing and de's who can play the 5 tech.no nt but tank played it some in kc.

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