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Panthers Prospect Visits/Meetings (Final Update-4/22)

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3 hours ago, Basbear said:

 

I do not want nor have the energy to start a sanders vs BY topic.....

Heres where Im at, what else is Titans Levi's or colts Arich going give in a trade...... Im no sanders fan, but it wouldn't bug me if caralas/Brandt/tepper/who____ wanted to go another route.....yes its been a QB whirlwind since ...to long.... still Im not sold on the skill and talent of one BY.

 

I think this is first year in many in which Carolina with have the same HC, QB, and GM. Its been a mess...

Well I don't disagree with you. But that isn't in the cards this season although we should IMO absolutely consider a QB in the mid rounds with some potential just to have on the roster because Jack Plummer is the definition of an afterthought and Andy Dalton while he is a great guy he is simply cooked at this point in his career let's just be honest.

Certainly this year is the put up or shut up year regardless of circumstances. Or at least it should be. I've said all along my concern is this regime led by the Tepper's who have a built in need to save face for pushing for the trade will be willing to accept even marginal improvement as a "win" and seek to explore contract extension options with Bryce. While I like Dan Morgan he certainly is and was a direct part of that as Fitterer’s right-hand man so he also has a key stake in saving face too. I'm just hoping 2025 for the most part is a campaign that will silence any and all doubt and leave very little to be debated. At least then as a fanbase we could come together and end most of these constant feuds over the starting QB at least temporarily. We'll see.

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4 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, also on the most talented team in the country for the most part. 

I'd argue that Ohio State + Georgia were more talented overall, but yea that Bama roster was definitely top-10, arguably top-5.

I'd say #3 behind the others listed.

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22 hours ago, frankw said:

Well I don't disagree with you. But that isn't in the cards this season although we should IMO absolutely consider a QB in the mid rounds with some potential just to have on the roster because Jack Plummer is the definition of an afterthought and Andy Dalton while he is a great guy he is simply cooked at this point in his career let's just be honest.

Certainly this year is the put up or shut up year regardless of circumstances. Or at least it should be. I've said all along my concern is this regime led by the Tepper's who have a built in need to save face for pushing for the trade will be willing to accept even marginal improvement as a "win" and seek to explore contract extension options with Bryce. While I like Dan Morgan he certainly is and was a direct part of that as Fitterer’s right-hand man so he also has a key stake in saving face too. I'm just hoping 2025 for the most part is a campaign that will silence any and all doubt and leave very little to be debated. At least then as a fanbase we could come together and end most of these constant feuds over the starting QB at least temporarily. We'll see.

 

Im right there with you. This is a good-great year for drafting mid-round QBs. Plus if there is ateam that can carry 3 QBs, its the Panthers. It would be good insurance if BY gos awful again or his asking price is spacey. The staff or Dave is a modern QB "guru", let him pick one starting in the 4-5 rounds. 

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1 hour ago, Basbear said:

 

Im right there with you. This is a good-great year for drafting mid-round QBs. Plus if there is ateam that can carry 3 QBs, its the Panthers. It would be good insurance if BY gos awful again or his asking price is spacey. The staff or Dave is a modern QB "guru", let him pick one starting in the 4-5 rounds. 

This is literally one of the worst QB drafts in recent memory. Anything above a 6th is a waste.

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4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is literally one of the worst QB drafts in recent memory. Anything above a 6th is a waste.

I was in favor of taking shot at Kyle McCord in the 5th, but he's jumped...BIG time.  He may go as high as late 2nd!  He's projecting in the Milroe/Ewers tier now.

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26 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I was in favor of taking shot at Kyle McCord in the 5th, but he's jumped...BIG time.  He may go as high as late 2nd!  He's projecting in the Milroe/Ewers tier now.

McCord and Shough I get as backups but we don't need a backup. We literally just resigned Dalton.

So expending draft capital on a 3rd QB in the top 5 rounds is not super smart.

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5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

McCord and Shough I get as backups but we don't need a backup. We literally just resigned Dalton.

So expending draft capital on a 3rd QB in the top 5 rounds is not super smart.

I realize that, but this was a while ago when McCord was projecting as a mid day 3 selection, obviously before Dalton re-signed.  Also, I wouldn't take any QB from this draft in second round.

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