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After Day three.... New draft strategy?

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Edge LB or DB at 2

WR at 3

Taking Tet or Warren at 8 would be the biggest mistake.  TEs take time, and Tet won against inferior defenses.  He will face his best competition vs the worst coverage in the NFL, I don't feel it will translate like some think.

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4 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

Edge or LB  1

Edge LB or DB at 2

WR at 3

Taking Tet or Warren at 8 would be the biggest mistake.  TEs take time, and Tet won against inferior defenses.  He will face his best competition vs the worst coverage in the NFL, I don't feel it will translate like some think.

in the last 5 drafts, pretty much all the first round TEs were ready to contribute as rookies.  Bowers and Pitts had 1k rookie seasons.  Kincaid and Hockenson were both ready to compete right away. 

Warren IMO projects to be ready to make plays as a rookie pending the landing spot.  I think if you want him to make plays, he will pretty quickly. 

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28 minutes ago, CRA said:

in the last 5 drafts, pretty much all the first round TEs were ready to contribute as rookies.  Bowers and Pitts had 1k rookie seasons.  Kincaid and Hockenson were both ready to compete right away. 

Warren IMO projects to be ready to make plays as a rookie pending the landing spot.  I think if you want him to make plays, he will pretty quickly. 

I also dont think Canales values the TE position the way panther fans do

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15 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

I also dont think Canales values the TE position the way panther fans do

Now I can accept that.  

But I still contend, an ideal Bryce Young O and a the standard O Canales has been involved with......aren't the perfect marriage.  So something had to give.  I would think catering to Bryce more vs expecting Bryce to fit the mold of his prior QBs is the way. 

 

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1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

Edge or LB  1

Edge LB or DB at 2

WR at 3

Taking Tet or Warren at 8 would be the biggest mistake.  TEs take time, and Tet won against inferior defenses.  He will face his best competition vs the worst coverage in the NFL, I don't feel it will translate like some think.

lol, you know it's just easier to say you know nothing about T-Mac than to spout dumbass stuff like "he won against inferior defenses"

But hey, at least you openly tell people you don't know what you're talking about so it's easy to dismiss what you say.

In 15 games against ranked teams he had 90 rec, 1,227 yards, and 9 TDs, with 4 of the 15 games during his Freshman year when he only had 205 yards.  So he still had over 1k yards in the 11 games against ranked teams his final 2 years.

Yes, I know there is a difference between ranked teams and good/bad defenses, but I'm not going to spend the time to look up the defensive ranking of every team he played in his 3 years, this is just quicker and easier, but it's far more evidence against your point than in support of it.

All of which is also to just ignore that he was almost never single covered this past season, had horrible QB play, horrible coaching and play calling, with no other offensive weapons to take defensive attention away from him, and he was still 3rd in the nation in yards.  Even if it was against inferior competition like you think, he still had EVERYTHING stacked against him and put up elite numbers.

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

lol, you know it's just easier to say you know nothing about T-Mac than to spout dumbass stuff like "he won against inferior defenses"

But hey, at least you openly tell people you don't know what you're talking about so it's easy to dismiss what you say.

In 15 games against ranked teams he had 90 rec, 1,227 yards, and 9 TDs, with 4 of the 15 games during his Freshman year when he only had 205 yards.  So he still had over 1k yards in the 11 games against ranked teams his final 2 years.

Yes, I know there is a difference between ranked teams and good/bad defenses, but I'm not going to spend the time to look up the defensive ranking of every team he played in his 3 years, this is just quicker and easier, but it's far more evidence against your point than in support of it.

All of which is also to just ignore that he was almost never single covered this past season, had horrible QB play, horrible coaching and play calling, with no other offensive weapons to take defensive attention away from him, and he was still 3rd in the nation in yards.  Even if it was against inferior competition like you think, he still had EVERYTHING stacked against him and put up elite numbers.

I cant take anything you say about McMillan seriously because you have over inflated him to be something he isn't. He hasn't proven anything at the college level to make me think he can produce in the NFL.  

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

in the last 5 drafts, pretty much all the first round TEs were ready to contribute as rookies.  Bowers and Pitts had 1k rookie seasons.  Kincaid and Hockenson were both ready to compete right away. 

Warren IMO projects to be ready to make plays as a rookie pending the landing spot.  I think if you want him to make plays, he will pretty quickly. 

I think Warren is better than all of them besides Brock. 

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I cant take anything you say about McMillan seriously because you have over inflated him to be something he isn't. He hasn't proven anything at the college level to make me think he can produce in the NFL.  

Uh, what now?!?!  Just doubling down on nonsensical statements?

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In 2023 he was 4th in the nation in yards and 9th in receptions, then followed that up in 2024 by being 3rd in Yards and 14th in receptions, not to mention all the absurd highlight reel plays he's made over his career.

Was a 2nd Team All P12 as a Sophomore and then Consensus 1st Team All American, 1st Team All Big 12, and Biletnikoff finalist as a Junior.

Say you have specific concerns that you feel will limit his upside in the NFL and keep him from being a blue chip player, at least that would be a fair statement/viewpoint to make.  But to say he hasn't "proven anything at the college level to think he can produce in the NFL" is just an utterly absurd statement to make.

He has a very high floor, even if he's someone you personally don't see being a Top 10 WR in the league (which I honestly think he will be), his floor is still going to be as a Top 25 WR.

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