would JR even pay for a #1 pick?

[FIREFOX2.0]

Getting Harbaugh and Luck would be great for that Panthers. I'm worried that the Bengals wont win any more games but I doubt they would take Luck with the first pick.

What about Jeff Fisher? I think he is on the hot seat in Tennessee, he could be an interesting hire for us. FIRETHATCOACH.NET

[Lumps]

Joehfnf Fioshxer

[mav1234]

This isn't a head coaching thread, but I really, REALLY do not want Jeff Fisher. I would rather we keep Fox

Also, of course he'll pay a #1 pick if we draft them. No reason to think this season will be the norm; this season was more more about a youth movement and setting the team up for the future than it was about specifically cutting salary to line JR's pockets (not saying that didn't end up happening).

Finally, stop saying Hurney tried to trade our 1st rounder for moving up to take Clausen. The only statements made on this have him saying he didn't pull the trigger on the deal because that WAS the asking price, and we have no indication he's lying.

[Davidson Deac II]

JR has gone cheap one year out of 16, with a new CBA looming and everyone thinks it's permanent, LOL

This.

Some fans tend to have very short memories. Spending money has never been a problem until this year. Spending it wisely sometimes has.

[brandon_87]

I'm one of the guys who was pissed at Richardson being cheap, but I'm over it. It was more venting frustration that we suck. Now I'm just looking forward to the next season. He'll spend the dough, not worried about it anymore.

That sums it up perfect, I guess the being cheap thing is just now starting to bug me,I was one of the people that thought we would be great without any added vets, but obviously I was just thinking positive. Overall I am already looking forward to next year, it's just annoying when I have 2 seahawks fans at work talking all this poo and I really can't say poo and JR is the first person that comes to mind to blame, followed by davidson

[thefuzz]

I am frustrated with JR, but not for the reasons that most of you are.

The one thing that is making me nervous is the non signing of Beason. Right now he is the best player on this team, not to mention a stand up guy, and a leader.

Hurney is my biggest gripe with this team, but that too shall pass.

[Fiz]

So you haven't heard of the new rookie cap, right?

Tell me all about this thing that's only been mentioned by reporters.

[CLTPanther]

No, he only wants the last pick in the draft to save some money

[jtm]

People kill me. Since when is it a bad thing to make money? People here say this as if it is some kind of disease. Do you realize that no team can succeed without the NFL succeeding. It is a partnership and the two go hand in hand. If you think JR would rather the NFL be successful at the expense of the Panthers being terrible you are sorely mistaken.

If you want to see why the two must operate hand in hand take a look at the NHL or NBA. The NHL is pretty much non-existent now because of poor league decisions made years ago and the NBA has just come back in the past couple of years from poor decisions it made in the late 90's.

If you don't believe me, do a google search for 2010 NFL values by team. The most competitive teams are in the top half and the least competitive are in the bottom half. I am not saying that you can buy a championship. If that was the case, the Skins and Cowboys would win every year. All I am saying is there needs to be balance and making money isn't a bad thing.

[carolinarolls]

I don't think he would in normal circumstances. I'm almost positive he won't in these.

We will trade number 1-3 to somebody with a mid 1st and high second. That is where this FO is comfortable on draft day.

[carolinarolls]

So you haven't heard of the new rookie cap, right?

no please tell me about it. specifically when it went into effect and what the cap is set at.

thnks

[jtm]

Even if you think JR only cares about the money, which by the way I do not think that is the case. The reality is, winning teams make a lot more money than losing teams. People that say JR only cares about money and then say he doesn't care about winning are making an argument that is fatally flawed. When teams win they sell more tickets, sell more beer and concessions, sell more jerseys, and most importantly sell more advertising and at a higher rate. I don't think the local community or corporate america is lining up right now to poney up millions of dollars in advertising for a half empty stadium.

Do people really think a team makes the same amount of money in a winning year v. a losing year? Do you also not think that JR is acutely aware of Charlotte's feelings towards owners like this (aka George Shinn).

[rayzor]

Getting Harbaugh and Luck would be great for that Panthers. I'm worried that the Bengals wont win any more games but I doubt they would take Luck with the first pick.

What about Jeff Fisher? I think he is on the hot seat in Tennessee, he could be an interesting hire for us. FIRETHATCOACH.NET

jeff fisher is the john fox of the AFC. no thanks.

oh...btw....

[carolinarolls]

The need for it is one of the few things both sides seem to agree on.

that kind of talk gives both sides good quotes in the press and is the direct result of a good publicist but the number is the key and that number is guaranteed to be nowhere close to being agree upon. I bet they are not inside of a 50% gap and it may be bigger than that.