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Will the Panthers be drafting another QB?


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There's always that guy - in every draft - that gets picked in one of the later rounds and turns out to be a superstar. Every draft has a "Tom Brady" of sorts. It's not always QB, but when it is, it's especially lucky. Sometimes it's the guy himself who just personally gets better, or starts working with the right coach or gets put into a great system. Those things can also kill a QB. Tough to say how to get the right combination, but I'm hoping we can get lucky like that.

I think everyone agrees QB is the most important position on an NFL roster. It can really control how well the rest of the team performs (outside of special teams). Look at San Diego and Phillip Rivers. He's one of the best QB's in the game and because of injuries this past season, he had a revolving door of receivers to throw to and put up huge numbers. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have been doing it for years. Great QB's make their receivers better just by being on the field. Great QB's make an average running game look good by keeping the defense focused on the pass. Great QB's control the clock and keep the defense resting on the sideline. Great QB's win games on their own.

Now I'm not trying to sell you on why we need a good QB because everyone already knows that...but what should stop the Panthers from drafting one every year until they find one? Waste of a draft pick? I'd say hell no - because the position is too important to have constant poor play. And fostering some healthy competition will weed out the pretenders. I'm on board for drafting another QB, even 1st overall.

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I don't think they'll draft one in the first round, which is really all you can plan for. I think it's likely that they'll give a guy a chance in the 3rd though, or the 2nd if a new CBA is reached and they make a trade. I don't like the look of a lot of these QB's, which means that one (if not more) of them would probably drop.

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Here are a few players who would probably go a lot higher if the drafts were done again.

2001 - T.J. Houshmandzadeh (7th)

2002 - Justin Hartwig (6th) - think pre-injury days...

2003 - Tony Romo (UDFA)

2004 - Michael Turner (5th)

2005 - Ryan Grant, Josh Cribbs, Lance Moore (UDFA), Matt Cassell, Jay Ratliff (7th)

2006 - Miles Austin (UDFA), Marques Colston (7th)

2007 - Selvin Young (UDFA)

2008 - Peyton Hillis (7th)

2009 - Arian Foster (UDFA), Captain Munnerlyn (7th), Zach Miller (6th)

2010 - LeGarrette Blount (UDFA), James Starks (6th), Greg Hardy (6th)

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I think they will go for a vet.With Luck gone and given any rookie qb will need time to develpoe I think they will let a vet steer the ship this year and hope they can develope Clausen.I do not have a crystal ball but I do not see Clausen as the man but as many have noted he at least deserves a shot.

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From a straight scouting perspective coming out of college, is Blaine Gabbert that much better than Jimmy Clausen? To warrant the #1 pick?

I just don't see it. You have to think they bring in a veteran qb and hope the coaching staff can "teach" Clausen, Pike, or any other QB they bring in.

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There's always that guy - in every draft - that gets picked in one of the later rounds and turns out to be a superstar. Every draft has a "Tom Brady" of sorts. It's not always QB, but when it is, it's especially lucky. Sometimes it's the guy himself who just personally gets better, or starts working with the right coach or gets put into a great system. Those things can also kill a QB. Tough to say how to get the right combination, but I'm hoping we can get lucky like that.

I think everyone agrees QB is the most important position on an NFL roster. It can really control how well the rest of the team performs (outside of special teams). Look at San Diego and Phillip Rivers. He's one of the best QB's in the game and because of injuries this past season, he had a revolving door of receivers to throw to and put up huge numbers. Peyton Manning and Tom Brady have been doing it for years. Great QB's make their receivers better just by being on the field. Great QB's make an average running game look good by keeping the defense focused on the pass. Great QB's control the clock and keep the defense resting on the sideline. Great QB's win games on their own.

Now I'm not trying to sell you on why we need a good QB because everyone already knows that...but what should stop the Panthers from drafting one every year until they find one? Waste of a draft pick? I'd say hell no - because the position is too important to have constant poor play. And fostering some healthy competition will weed out the pretenders. I'm on board for drafting another QB, even 1st overall.

Really? They throw the ball to themselves?

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From a straight scouting perspective coming out of college, is Blaine Gabbert that much better than Jimmy Clausen? To warrant the #1 pick?

I just don't see it. You have to think they bring in a veteran qb and hope the coaching staff can "teach" Clausen, Pike, or any other QB they bring in.

I'd like to see Pike get a chance. He could be a "sleeper". He's got good size and didn't get shell-shocked last year like Clausen. Just needs to put on some weight. Thinking he has more of a chance right now than anyone else on the roster...

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I doubt we take a QB. If Gabbert continues to impress people and the Panthers trade down to the 5-10 range they might take him. Beyond, that I don't think the Panthers will take another qb in later rounds with Jimmy and PIke still on roster. It would take an epic fall into the 5th or 6th round; for the Panthers to take a chance on another rookie qb.

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I'd like to see Pike get a chance. He could be a "sleeper". He's got good size and didn't get shell-shocked last year like Clausen. Just needs to put on some weight. Thinking he has more of a chance right now than anyone else on the roster...

Pike was behind all season. Didn't graduate in time to learn from OTAs, was 4th in camp, was converting from a spread to a pro set.

True, I would like to see him develop, but he probably won't for a year or two. The arm strength bothers me

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