Schefter: CBA Meeting for Today Canceled, JR Rubbing People Wrong Way

[Montsta]

You say to "lock their asses out", but I think if JR was the main reason for a lockout, it would be awfully hard to convince free agents to come here. Yea, we'll have tons of money, but it does no good when potential free agents dont like the owner. That's the way I see it, but I dont know. Either way, I dont see this turning out good for us...

I promise you that in the eyes of 99.99% of NFL players $$$ > liking the owner. It's not like JR is a douchebag towards his players, he's just a good businessman. The players can appreciate that, considering they leave teams

for huge paydays and instantly mention how the NFL is a business.

[Pox 08]

For how long?

Until things are clear. Right now, all negative things that are out there concerning Richardson is speculation.

Then, in regards to our team, we've not seen the finished product of what Richardson started two years ago. I'd prefer to see where he's going with it, before jumping the gun and accusing him of being a horrible owner (which I've seen several claim he is).

[Pox 08]

I don't pay to watch JR sit in his owner's box with a blanket covering him like an old lady.

Eh. Maybe the players should pool their money together and buy their own team. I'd like to be a fly on that wall when their employees demand 50% of their business.

[pantherclaw]

I can tell you right now that fans across the country will have a problem with an owner like JR holding things up. I don't think they'll look to kindly to an owner in one of the smallest markets messing with their NFL football.

What are they gonna do about it? Lol

[Zod]

Never mind that most companies in the us spend 45-65% of revenue on employee salaries. Why isn't the NFL who have relatively low overhead as the stadiums are usually built with tax money?

NFL players put themselves at great physical risk every Sunday to perform their job. I am all for them getting as much income as they can.

[Cavscout]

IMO, Players make too much money just to play football. The average career is three years in the NFL. They think that they should be given enough money to retire after that...BS. They need to get a real job with the fake Sociology degree that they were given and see how the real freaking world has to work their tails off. Screw the players.

[Zod]

IMO, Players make too much money just to play football. The average career is three years in the NFL. They think that they should be given enough money to retire after that...BS. They need to get a real job with the fake Sociology degree that they were given and see how the real freaking world has to work their tails off. Screw the players.

You really think most NFL players make enough in a career to retire? Not even close.

[pantherj]

Greedy old bastard. Maybe the rest of the owners should lock him out.

And Luck has two years of eligibility left. He could stiff the Panthers next year also.

:eek:

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Never mind that most companies in the us spend 45-65% of revenue on employee salaries. Why isn't the NFL who have relatively low overhead as the stadiums are usually built with tax money?

NFL players put themselves at great physical risk every Sunday to perform their job. I am all for them getting as much income as they can.

And the NFL is not Johnson and Johnson....the players are the commodity. The players drive the attendance and media attention. Is a Pats fan or the National TV market wanting to see Tom Brady at QB or Bryan Hoyer....Brady gets a big contract. Players drive the sport as well as the NFL branding but without the players there is no league.

[Lumps]

Two words. Medical Bills. Hospitals will ruin anyone financially. I know, I am racking up a lot of debt. And with the problems these guys are going to have they are going to want the best (most expensive). You're telling me the players don't even deserve half? These guys are going to have some problems later on and I would assume cut your life down if you played for a long time. Their body takes un-natural abuse and as Zod pointed out there is nothing like that going on in the owners side. I would think JR would know this as a player himself. You guys are well aware a stroke, if it doesn't permanently physically inable someone can't just as easily mentally disable them? In fact 10% have seizers and even more have deteriorating state of minds. Just a thought. I think he is going senile and no one will see it or say it until one day you look behind us and say how the fug did we get into this mess.

[SmokeScreen]

JR, i just had some BO today and man was it sure good.

[tondi]

I can't speak for everyone but the industry I am in runs about 10% of total revenue for total employee salary/benefits. I can't imagine the majority of industries out there are paying 50% or more to their employees. Especially if 90% of their employees are college dropouts.

[Zod]

I can't speak for everyone but the industry I am in runs about 10% of total revenue for total employee salary/benefits. I can't imagine the majority of industries out there are paying 50% or more to their employees. Especially if 90% of their employees are college dropouts.

Whats your industry? All depends on how much capital/overhead it takes.

Banks have more overhead than the Panthers, they pay upwards of 60%.

[theyhateme45]

Never mind that most companies in the us spend 45-65% of revenue on employee salaries. Why isn't the NFL who have relatively low overhead as the stadiums are usually built with tax money?

NFL players put themselves at great physical risk every Sunday to perform their job. I am all for them getting as much income as they can.

I could be wrong, but I think that stadium cost are one of the owners major issues. Yes stadiums are usually built with tax dollars, but as of lately because of the recession cities haven't been as willing to use tax payers dollars on new stadiums when there are more pressing financial issues cities needs to address.

Currently the way the revenues are split the Owners feel they do not have enough $$$ to fund stadium improvements or new stadiums. So instead of fighting cities for stadium $$$ they want a credit to be applied for stadium $$$ spent.

I believe currently the players do receive 52% of All Revenue, and after taking into consideration credits to all revenues they receive 60% of Total Revenue.

What I think the owners want is more credits from All revenues for stadium cost mainly, while the players still get 60% of total revenue... It's just that 60% is now a lot less, and their percentage of All Revenue will fall to Less than 50% because of the stadium credits.

I think the owners Point of view is they need those credits to grow their earnings potentials and increase revenues. So if they can now invest in new stadiums and improvements it will generate even more revenues in the long run. So even though the players gives up a higher % of All revenues, that money will be used to increase Revenues for the NFL.... And because they are growing their revenues the players will receive more $$$ in the end because the investment credits will generate more $$$ than the credits itself.

That is my understand at this point, and if that is the case then I do agree with the owners at this point. However, if they are saying the currently do not have the means to invest in these stadiums and improvments then they do need to open up their books and show the players why.