Dan Morgan on Jadeveon Clowney: “we’re still working through the roster”

[csx]

50 minutes ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

I'd consider cutting DJ Johnson before Clowney. He hasn't shown anything in the 2 seasons he's been here. In 27 games he's appeared in he has a half a sack. He will also be turning 27 in October.

Clowney at least fills a role of having a veteran with some success in the NFL with high draft pedigree. If I had to choose between the 2 I'd choose Clowney. I don't see Johnson developing into a solid starter.

Cutting Johnson does nothing for us though. Trading Clowney can 

[bythenbrs]

26 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Maybe, maybe not. You cannot assume these rookies will be able to start right out of the gate. The run defense could actually get worse for a while before these rookies get up to speed. But given how bad it's been I can see the benefit in just ripping the bandaid off and letting them earn their strips under live bullets all season.

Just to clarify, my earlier comment was specific to Clowney and Scourton and not an argument for starting all or most of the rookie draft picks.  It is an assessment (probably wrong) where I am balancing 1) rebuild year, 2) cap management, and 3) my perception that Scourton is already starter capable, if the expectations aren’t too unrealistic.  Yes, the run defense may suffer initially but I think the long term benefits to the team and his specific development are greater than the short term potential step back in run defense at that one position.

This may be my only post in my 20+ years here on the Huddle where I am arguing for taking risk, as I am congenitally risk averse.  Anyway, I appreciate your measured and thoughtful counter argument.

[Mr Mojo Risin]

31 minutes ago, csx said:

Cutting Johnson does nothing for us though. Trading Clowney can 

What would we need the 7 mill for? Who would we sign? Clowney has experience that could be beneficial to the young guys we're bringing in. Keeping Johnson is just going to eat up the valuable reps the new draft picks would get behind the starters. By keeping Clowney we can have a good rotation of players while being able to give the old guys more of a break and we won't have to be too reliant on the young guys starting too early while they get acclimated to the NFL game

[panther252]

I dunno I'd like to keep Clowney so we have someone the kids can learn from. I really liked his attitude and he seemed to enjoy being a Panther. 

[Jon Snow]

4 hours ago, bythenbrs said:

Just to clarify, my earlier comment was specific to Clowney and Scourton and not an argument for starting all or most of the rookie draft picks.  It is an assessment (probably wrong) where I am balancing 1) rebuild year, 2) cap management, and 3) my perception that Scourton is already starter capable, if the expectations aren’t too unrealistic.  Yes, the run defense may suffer initially but I think the long term benefits to the team and his specific development are greater than the short term potential step back in run defense at that one position.

This may be my only post in my 20+ years here on the Huddle where I am arguing for taking risk, as I am congenitally risk averse.  Anyway, I appreciate your measured and thoughtful counter argument.

Not arguing either way so no harm no foul.

I'm not sure that the rebuild term will last much longer in Teppers mind so as a coach I would not bank on that. It's time to start winning and get butt's in the seats. 

Guys like Clowney are only rentals and they will move or cut him as soon as possible. The same will happen with a lot of the guys on defense. I would love that to be with one of these draft picks but that will have to play it's out.