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Sounds like Dave and Dan were getting intel from the current rostered players about draft prospects rather than players going to them to pine for certain draft prospects. I doubt our previous staffs put much thought or value into the fact that a lot of our 2nd and 3rd season players have more real world experience with upcoming draft picks than some old ass scouts probably half-assing their reports

 

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7 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Sounds like Dave and Dan were getting intel from the current rostered players about draft prospects rather than players going to them to pine for certain draft prospects. I doubt our previous staffs put much thought or value into the fact that a lot of our 2nd and 3rd season players have more real world experience with upcoming draft picks than some old ass scouts probably half-assing their reports

 

big picture though, that largely sounds like a horrible idea to go about things.  Not saying I think they did that.  Think the illusion of that is largely just PRish of presenting a image of things working out well.  But yeah, you don't want your WR influencing who you draft at TE.  Players are going to be bringing crazy bias into the equation and a 23 year old struggling QB shouldn't be making your top 10 pick. 

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big picture though, that largely sounds like a horrible idea to go about things.  Not saying I think they did that.  Think the illusion of that is largely just PRish of presenting a image of things working out well.  But yeah, you don't want your WR influencing who you draft at TE.  Players are going to be bringing crazy bias into the equation and a 23 year old struggling QB shouldn't be making your top 10 pick. 

I agree that they most likely leaned on their own scouting and intel to evaluate talent, but there's nothing wrong with picking the brains of current rostered players.  If nothing else it promotes unity and team building and maybe another angle to evaluate, the more info the better. As long as it's just part of the process and not the whole process I'm okay with it.

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19 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Sounds like Dave and Dan were getting intel from the current rostered players about draft prospects rather than players going to them to pine for certain draft prospects. I doubt our previous staffs put much thought or value into the fact that a lot of our 2nd and 3rd season players have more real world experience with upcoming draft picks than some old ass scouts probably half-assing their reports

 

 

I always thought about asking players about that years draftable rookies. I would take the good/great stuff very lightly. But the bad or cancer stuff, that's going in the file.... If some current player tells me another player from their school is lazy and always in trouble, get that confirmed and lose that players name. 

Like for rumor too, lots of times they are fake these days. If a player has first hand information, why not listen?? I get they can overrate their friends and school, but there's more to it than "he's cool". Maybe the guy played hurt the whole season and didn't let no one know but his close friends. 

I'd also hire some top recruiter every 2-3 years to stay up to date on information as well. 

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