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2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

That's my biggest concern with making him the 2C.  You split up the Aho Jarvis bromance that accounted for a lot of points.  If Jarvis excels as a C, it could help the team even more though.

If you move Jarvis to line 2 at center then your lines are probably going to be the following. 

Ehlers - Aho - Svechnikov (Svech and Ehlers can switch and play either side. 

Hall - Jarvis - Stankoven 

Martinook - Staal - Blake

Carrier - Jankowski - KK

 

Could also make the case to switch Stankoven and Blake around. 

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19 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

He's pretty damn good defensively, 55% fo center and still a half point per game player at 36. 

98% defensive EV and 61% WAR player if going into advanced stats. 

I figured i was not seeing the big picture--when I first started following the Canes a few years ago, I thought his brand name status meant that he was the superstar and I think I always expected him to perform at that elite level--I did not know he was a half point player--he sure (to me) is quiet about it.

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2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I figured i was not seeing the big picture--when I first started following the Canes a few years ago, I thought his brand name status meant that he was the superstar and I think I always expected him to perform at that elite level--I did not know he was a half point player--he sure (to me) is quiet about it.

He was supposed to be relegated to the 4th line as the honorary captain by now.  But he hasn’t fallen off enough to be unseated from the main checking line.

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2 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

If you move Jarvis to line 2 at center then your lines are probably going to be the following. 

Ehlers - Aho - Svechnikov (Svech and Ehlers can switch and play either side. 

Hall - Jarvis - Stankoven 

Martinook - Staal - Blake

Carrier - Jankowski - KK

 

Could also make the case to switch Stankoven and Blake around. 

I saw some people saying Svech should be with Jarvis to offset the size.  Jarvis Stankoven is pretty small.

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16 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I figured i was not seeing the big picture--when I first started following the Canes a few years ago, I thought his brand name status meant that he was the superstar and I think I always expected him to perform at that elite level--I did not know he was a half point player--he sure (to me) is quiet about it.

Also worth mentioning that Jordan Staal has always been more of a defensive forward.  His older brother Eric was more of a scorer.  I still remember Jordan as the kid the Penguins were lucky to have as 3C under Crosby and Malkin.

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17 hours ago, carpanfan96 said:

He's pretty damn good defensively, 55% fo center and still a half point per game player at 36. 

98% defensive EV and 61% WAR player if going into advanced stats. 

 

17 hours ago, MHS831 said:

I figured i was not seeing the big picture--when I first started following the Canes a few years ago, I thought his brand name status meant that he was the superstar and I think I always expected him to perform at that elite level--I did not know he was a half point player--he sure (to me) is quiet about it.

HE Is ELITE defensively in fact hes probably 75% of the reason we are so good at home in the playoffs, Rod line matches his line against our opponents best offensive line. 

 

Staal isnt gonna score much but he sure as heck stops scoring and is a monster PKer.

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23 hours ago, organicrusty1201 said:

Rossi and management are at an impasse, would love to see the Canes do the offer sheet or get him with sign and trade

Ummm not sure adding anther 5'9 180 pound soaking wet forward is the way to go here.....

 

 

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The Rossi things isn't going away, either...

https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/3312416/unfinished-business-7-players-to-watch-in-back-half-of-nhl-offseason

The Wild and Rossi shouldn't be having any trouble hammering out an extension.

Rossi, an RFA turning 24 in September, recorded the second-most points on the team last season (60 in 82 games). The smart, skilled, highly competitive 5-foot-9 Austrian is a homegrown top-six center. Minnesota has $10 million in cap space and no other significant spots to fill to finalize its 2025-26 roster.

Problems lurk below the surface, however. Coach John Hynes demoted Rossi to the fourth line in the playoffs, dropping his nightly usage from 18 minutes in the regular season to 11 in the first-round series loss to Vegas. GM Bill Guerin's top to-do list item at the moment is to lock up Kirill Kaprizov. The superstar winger, who's been eligible for an extension since July 1, is due for Leon Draisaitl-type money (around $14 million average annual value) starting in 2026-27.

Guerin has said there's no rush to sign, trade, or match an offer sheet for Rossi. If he stays, a short-term extension makes sense, since it gives both player and team flexibility. If he leaves, a trade is far more likely than an offer sheet.

Half of the league could use a second-line center, and Rossi still has upside.

The Hurricanes desperately need to upgrade at 2C (Jesperi Kotkaniemi isn't going to cut it) and have plenty of cap space. Ditto for the Sabres, who picked Jack Quinn one spot before Rossi went to the Wild in the 2020 draft. Mammoth bench boss Andre Tourigny coached Rossi in junior, and they don't have as much wiggle room, but trading top-six winger Nick Schmaltz (plus a pick) could make the math work. Guerin wants to make a so-called "hockey trade" here.

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