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Guys that will either make or break our Young Quarterback!!

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Khyber53 Grand Master

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18 hours ago, jfra78 said:

I didnt read the article, but there are no excuses for Bryce.  He will make or break his self, stop blaming the rest of the team for his "short" comings.  Had to do it

 

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I wish it was different, but really, it's all in his own hands now. If he can come back and be that guy he was at the end of last season then we are looking at something long-term and grand.

If not... then it is back to the draft, again. Unless Canales has another reclamation project waiting in the wings.

Personally, I believe in what I saw. I think he can certainly do it. I want to see him succeed at the highest level possible.

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On paper and previous performance, this line is very strong.  Not perfect but it shouldn't be a concern for a QB.  There is a stronger case for concern related to his weapons than his protection but this offense is built for a QB to be successful and it is up to Bryce at this point.  

Cautiously optimistic based on the end of last season but time will tell.

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13 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

Maybe the offense doesn't have any excuses, but the defense has to give the team a chance. We can't be playing from 3 touchdowns behind and expect the offense to still thrive every game. We have to get some stops on 3rd down. We have to be able to create more time of possession for the offense more opportunities through turnovers. There's more pressure on Evero than there is on Bryce I think this year. Even if only slightly.

We had the 29th ranked O last year.   29th ranked offenses need defenses to flat out win games for them.   

and virtually ALL the investment went into that O while virtually intentionally letting the D slide.  

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20 minutes ago, CRA said:

We had the 29th ranked O last year.   29th ranked offenses need defenses to flat out win games for them.   

and virtually ALL the investment went into that O while virtually intentionally letting the D slide.  

Plus he can still have a great season with a bad defense.  It may not show up as wins but he should get plenty of drives to show how far along he has come in his development even with a bad defense.  

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

Plus he can still have a great season with a bad defense.  It may not show up as wins but he should get plenty of drives to show how far along he has come in his development even with a bad defense.  

Really bad defenses actually present opportunity for offenses to overperform statistically.  

which IMO is a red flag/concern about last year.  We had a historically bad defense.....and really didn't generate much O

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3 hours ago, CRA said:

We had the 29th ranked O last year.   29th ranked offenses need defenses to flat out win games for them.   

and virtually ALL the investment went into that O while virtually intentionally letting the D slide.  

Yeah and the defense was the worst in history, statistically. And then we invested heavily into defense this off-season. We had holes everywhere last year and weren't a good team. 

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10 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

Yeah and the defense was the worst in history, statistically. And then we invested heavily into defense this off-season. We had holes everywhere last year and weren't a good team. 

I still contend if you give any org our OL last year......more offense should of resulted.   The D being THAT bad makes sense given what the DL was post Brown going down. 

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3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I still contend if you give any org our OL last year......more offense should of resulted.   The D being THAT bad makes sense given what the DL was post Brown going down. 

One player going down on either side of the ball (minus quarterback) should never reasonably result in complete collapse.

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2 minutes ago, XClown1986 said:

One player going down on either side of the ball (minus quarterback) should never reasonably result in complete collapse.

I mean, it wasn't a "collapse" as much as it just made an already bad defense historically bad. Add any one player in NFL history to that D and it would've still sucked. 

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3 hours ago, CRA said:

We had the 29th ranked O last year.   29th ranked offenses need defenses to flat out win games for them.   

and virtually ALL the investment went into that O while virtually intentionally letting the D slide.  

It has been really weird to watch this team go from Sam Mills to Thomas Davis to Dan Morgan to Jon Beason to Luke Kuchly to.... being content with Josey Jewell. Linebackers used to be our DNA and now are a complete afterthought and staying that way.

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2 minutes ago, rodeo said:

It has been really weird to watch this team go from Sam Mills to Thomas Davis to Dan Morgan to Jon Beason to Luke Kuchly to.... being content with Josey Jewell. Linebackers used to be our DNA and now are a complete afterthought and staying that way.

I don't mind no longer dumping massive resources into the position but striking a balance between the two approaches would be nice.

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40 minutes ago, rodeo said:

It has been really weird to watch this team go from Sam Mills to Thomas Davis to Dan Morgan to Jon Beason to Luke Kuchly to.... being content with Josey Jewell. Linebackers used to be our DNA and now are a complete afterthought and staying that way.

100% agree.  LB and then to a much lesser extent but still a thing was DL.   We at least know we largely where going to have the defensive front 7 intact year to year pending injury didn't derail it.   

I can handle moving away from being RB central but the D is a bit tough to see

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