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39 minutes ago, Proudiddy said:

You’re Lol’ing but he was available u til the 5th round.  He has still not thrown a pick in camp or through his first start in preseason as a rookie.  He also just threw 2 TDs, extended plays, and displayed some elite anticipation and ball placement.

We traded a treasure trove of picks and assets to move up and take Bryce, who struggled for a season and a half before finally showing any semblance of being a quality starter, and that is still to be determined.

just saying, SS looks ahead of the curve and was available to every team for 4 whole rounds.

Ummm yeah thats were you get 5th rounders, oh did I mention that said defense gave up the most points in NFL history last season? 

 

Second statement is in no way related dude hindsight and what not, ex all I said about Bryce today = he did what he was supposed too.

 

Acting like a guy is a future star because he did okay vs 2nd and 3rd stringers on a historically bad defense is overkill to me but what do I know.

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12 minutes ago, NAS said:

They made him earn it.  I like it. And he did

Nah, they've really been icing him out. The only reason he is even getting this opportunity is because Pickett and Gabriel are banged up. The Browns suck for that. I even hate that he went there. But wouldn't it be something if he's the one that stabilizes the position (honestly since Brian Sipe, but maybe Bernie Kosar)?

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    • we are not talking about the 5th we are talking about bryce being one of if not the worst starter in the nfl for the past 3 years.  Dont move the goalposts my man
    • The issue is the position Bryce plays. Finding a good/great quarterback isn't easy. Plus, it sometimes takes years for these guys to actually become good/great. What you have to look for is progress instead of regression. Bryce has shown that. Can he put it all together? We don't know yet. But that's why you place a smaller bet with the 5th year option, and wait to see. You could be wrong and lose your 30 mil bet, but you didn't hitch your wagon long-term and lose much more.
    • Absolutely not. That’s too much for replacement level player. Bryce may be that. Or he may turn into something more. If you can’t see the flashes, you’re willfully blind. There’s more bad than good right now, but there’s less bad than there was earlier in his career. He’s only 24 and he’s showing signs of improvement. He may never become consistent enough to justify a long term contract, but he’s shown enough to roll the dice on what effectively will turn into a 2 year, $30MM contract for the next two years to see if he can earn something longer.    Sure, in his one season starting, Howell managed to throw for 3,946 yards and toss 21 TDs, but it took throwing the ball an astounding 612 times. He also threw 21 INTs (for a particularly egregious 3.4 INT%). For all the talk of him being a deep ball thrower, he still only averaged 6.4 YPA, with an average air yards of 5.6 yards per attempt. And for all the excuses of Washington’s line giving him no protection (65 sacks taken that year), he was only pressured on 22.7% of his dropbacks, which is a few percentage points lower than what Bryce has had to deal with each year (24.2, 26.7, and 24.0%).    These are all numbers that are at best roughly equivalent to Bryce’s production the past two years. It’s wild to me people can claim so confidently that he’s a better QB. 
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