The Panthers have an effort problem

[kungfoodude]

Just now, Khyber53 said:

Oh, and I think we hire coaches that the owner isn't physically afraid of.

 

I think most of the coaches we have had would have mopped the floor with Tepper. Not sure that is a thing.

Had you said, didn't challenge his authority....I could agree with that.

[Panthers Fan 69]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, that was the classic example of the grass not always being greener. I would kill to have the mediocrity with occasional peaks of excellence we experienced under those guys. It's been quite the ride all the way to the bottom of the NFL.

I agree and would kill to get back to 7-9 each year with every couple years of making the playoffs. 

[HaricotVert]

3 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh, and I think we hire coaches that the owner isn't physically afraid of.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Bingo…

and this is the kind of shitposting @XClown1986 was talking about that adds nothing but is rampant and derailing

[Panthers Fan 69]

11 minutes ago, HaricotVert said:

Please regale us with your stories of choosing the elite of the elite teams youve pondered this choice over.

 

I mean you speak with such conviction, you must have experience

Being that I’ve been a day fan since 95 at Clemson and watched 90% of games. I would say yeah. 

[Panthers Fan 69]

Just now, HaricotVert said:

 

and this is the kind of shitposting @XClown1986 was talking about that adds nothing but is rampant and derailing

My man don’t you have a happy meal to go buy and ball pit to go play in?

[HaricotVert]

3 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Being that I’ve been a day fan since 95 at Clemson and watched 90% of games. I would say yeah. 

You and literally 10s of thousands of others.  Doesnt give you any unique insight.  On the October night in 93 that the NFL announced that Charlotte won I threw my other team gear away.  See?  Doesnt make me special doesnt make you special

Edited Monday at 08:49 PM by HaricotVert

[Khyber53]

13 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I think most of the coaches we have had would have mopped the floor with Tepper. Not sure that is a thing.

Had you said, didn't challenge his authority....I could agree with that.

Nah, our last three head coaches were a bag of wet socks. Fox, Rivera coulda whooped all three in a fight by themselves. Heck Capers probably still can and is waiting for a shot.

Seifert... maybe.

[Khyber53]

13 minutes ago, HaricotVert said:

 

and this is the kind of shitposting @XClown1986 was talking about that adds nothing but is rampant and derailing

No, I disagree. I think that it reaches right to the core of what is happening with the team, the fanbase and then filters down to the Huddle. We're all in here just gnashing our teeth because, well, there ain't much cheering left to do at the moment.

Give us something to believe in and this crowd will be back trading high fives and being all rah rah. Right now, though, I've been on this board for 16 years and I've just watched the fanbase slide into this malaise. It sucks.

[HaricotVert]

4 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

No, I disagree. I think that it reaches right to the core of what is happening with the team, the fanbase and then filters down to the Huddle. We're all in here just gnashing our teeth because, well, there ain't much cheering left to do at the moment.

Give us something to believe in and this crowd will be back trading high fives and being all rah rah. Right now, though, I've been on this board for 16 years and I've just watched the fanbase slide into this malaise. It sucks.

and you need to add that layer of "malaise" to every thread?

 

And what exactly does making a comment about the owner being afraid of the coach add?

Edited Monday at 09:05 PM by HaricotVert

[cardiackat88.]

I remember the first game in 2021 after a lot of the pandemic restrictions have been lifted.

The first half felt like an entire game. The players seemed to be extremely unfocused and largely uninterested in the second half.

I bet most of these young players brains are fried from Tik Tok, too.

Good luck with attention span and effort.

[Panthers Fan 69]

2 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

No, I disagree. I think that it reaches right to the core of what is happening with the team, the fanbase and then filters down to the Huddle. We're all in here just gnashing our teeth because, well, there ain't much cheering left to do at the moment.

Give us something to believe in and this crowd will be back trading high fives and being all rah rah. Right now, though, I've been on this board for 16 years and I've just watched the fanbase slide into this malaise. It sucks.

Facts. During the Fox 7-9 years, we still had hope with great players on this team. A break here or there would mean a great year. The past 7 years under Tepper, minus the Wilks interm playoff failed push, we have had nothing to cheer for. No hope. Burns, Moore, CMC, Luvu, Darnold, Baker, Al traded or let go and piss poor drafting with those picks didn’t work out to replace them. 
 

I want to cheer. I miss those days. But that seems like a pipe dream now. 

[MechaZain]

36 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Oh, and I think we hire coaches that the owner isn't physically afraid of.

the coach was picked by the GM who is a fugging linebacker lmao

[Khyber53]

16 minutes ago, HaricotVert said:

and you need to add that layer of "malaise" to every thread?

 

And what exactly does making a comment about the owner being afraid of the coach add?

Okay, I'm not sure what you are getting at here. Are we not allowed to look at the product that has been put on the field and say "That doesn't look good, not good at all."? 

And the comment about the owner and picking coaches that aren't intimidating is actually a very pointed statement about potentially why we aren't doing well and, GOING BACK TO THE TOPIC OF THIS THREAD, might very well explain why we have an effort problem. Football is about imposing your will on the other guys, it is about extreme effort, guts, toughness, determination. It is a street fight every game at this level. And, well, we've had some real, well, pussies for the last couple of coaches. I'm still holding out that this one might have something to whip our rather lackluster team into something competitive.

But, I think, I see, that Tepper has chosen analytics guys and confidence builders over hard work and culture guys. And I think it's because those first types make him feel more in charge. 

But hey, I was on topic, but you dragged the other thread into here.

 

[Khyber53]

5 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

the coach was picked by the GM who is a fugging linebacker lmao

And a linebacker who was the management student of the last guy who was GM here. That guy wasn't exactly football Yoda. And Morgan was never the brightest bulb in the bin. Remember how he used to make sure that he took the head off of every rookie LB during the first training camp day? Ended one guy's career. Then, well, Morgan himself had to call it a career because of concussions himself.

We could have done better somewhere out there for a manager choice. We just let the last guy fall on his sword and promoted his caddy.