2025 Roster Cuts

[PNW_PantherMan]

If Bryce regresses, I don't want someone like Sam Howell winning 6 or 7 games for us anyways.  Let it play out instead of resisting the fact that its Bryce's sink or swim year.

[jb2288]

3 minutes ago, frankw said:

They could have easily kept him as a backup to mentor an upcoming draft pick but they had seen enough. They chased after Carr and probably saved us as supposedly we were hot for him too at one point. Unfortunately we made an even worse panic move. But. That's the Panthers for you.

What are you suggesting here? The Saints should have altered their entire QB strategy around keeping Dalton as QB2? Like I don’t even follow where you’re trying to go with this. Their decision was to get a vet QB1 in Carr, you don’t keep around an $8M QB2 in those situations. 

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

You think we should have given up draft capital to improve backup QB?  With all the other backups that are starting on this team?  I'm not sure I can agree with that.  The Eagles are at a much different spot in the life cycle of their competitive window.

Long term, why not? For a short term bandage, of course not.  We all know Dalton is collecting retirement money from the Panthers.  If he has to be put in a game, I'm sure he'll play hard for us, but he's not going to be staple of this team for the foreseeable future.

[CarolinaLivin]

#Jaguars releasing corner Deantre Prince, per source. He was a fifth-round pick in 2024.
 

i refuse to even check the guy out. STAY AWAY. IYKYK

[frankw]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I think you are just lashing out pointlessly because you are just generally butthurt. I have no idea why the backup QB suddenly is the most important thing in your mind but by all means, keep ranting away.

I can assure you, our failure or success this season will have very, very little to do with that.

The worst case scenario is another losing season with no QB on the roster worth a damn to give the young offensive players any level of  meaningful development. This isn't about winning. This was always going to be a losing season.

You can rabble about people being butthurt but you know as well as I do the odds that we will be discussing this again are fairly high. And the folks who are being most indignant about people discussing it now will probably go missing like always.

[CarolinaLivin]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

If Bryce regresses, I don't want someone like Sam Howell winning 6 or 7 games for us anyways.  Let it play out instead of resisting the fact that its Bryce's sink or swim year.

You think SAM HOWELL can win 6 or 7 games with this roster?

[CarolinaLivin]

2 minutes ago, frankw said:

The worst case scenario is another losing season with no QB on the roster worth a damn to give the young offensive players any level of  meaningful development. This isn't about winning. This was always going to be a losing season.

You can rabble about people being butthurt but you know as well as I do the odds that we will be discussing this again are fairly high. And the folks who are being most indignant about people discussing it now will probably go missing like always.

No QB from the draft or free agency was going to change this being a losing season for us. I mean we’re rebuilding, everything we’re doing is meant to be for winning tomorrow.

Edited 8 hours ago by CarolinaLivin

[kungfoodude]

9 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

And yet the Eagles go out and actually try to improve it.  Winner's mentality compared to a losers mentality.  Winners, while already good, try to get even better even at mundane things like backup QB.  Losers have the mentality of 'this is the all we got, so just make the best of it."  

I could care less about Dalton one way or the other, my ire is squarely pointed at our inept front office.

They have drafted two QB's since they took Hurts in the 2020 Draft. Tanner McKee(6th - 2023) and Kyle McCord(6th - 2025).

In that span we have drafted Bryce Young(1st - 2023) and Matt Corral(3rd - 2022). Technically, we have invested significantly higher draft capital on QB's(albeit one less than they).

It's not the investement that is the issue, it's the results. Corral was literally not a rosterable player with a THIRD ROUND PICK. We gave up a king's ransom for Bryce to basically get Davis Mills results(so far).

 

[frankw]

3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

What are you suggesting here? The Saints should have altered their entire QB strategy around keeping Dalton as QB2? Like I don’t even follow where you’re trying to go with this. Their decision was to get a vet QB1 in Carr, you don’t keep around an $8M QB2 in those situations. 

At this point the Tepper's seem to be leading you around by the nose based on how much time you spend carrying water for them so I'm not surprised you're struggling.

We are the only team who saw fit to install Andy Dalton with his zero career playoff wins as a culture cornerstone and a key mentor. Even the putrid Saints wanted no parts of that. Truth hurts

[Icege]

3 minutes ago, CarolinaLivin said:

#Jaguars releasing corner Deantre Prince, per source. He was a fifth-round pick in 2024.
 

i refuse to even check the guy out. STAY AWAY. IYKYK

Was bad against the run in college and never got any better in the pros. Definitely won't be a fit here, so bullet (hopefully) dodged.

[CarolinaLivin]

Just now, frankw said:

At this point the Tepper's seem to be leading you around by the nose based on how much time you spend carrying water for them so I'm not surprised you're struggling.

We are the only team who saw fit to install Andy Dalton with his zero career playoff wins as a culture cornerstone and a key mentor. Even the putrid Saints wanted no parts of that. Truth hurts

I doubt Andy is anything near our “culture cornerstone” and he was never signed to be that. 

[jb2288]

3 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Long term, why not? For a short term bandage, of course not.  We all know Dalton is collecting retirement money from the Panthers.  If he has to be put in a game, I'm sure he'll play hard for us, but he's not going to be staple of this team for the foreseeable future.

I think because the FO knows it's Bryce or sink this year. Build the roster up elsewhere (using these hypothetical picks we'd draft a backup QB with) so if Bryce is not the guy, we are not nearly in as bad spot as 2023. Our 2026 roster will be much better than 2023 where we could package up multiple picks to go grab Sellars or Nussmeier or Klubnik. We would not be trading up for the #1 pick next year assuming it's Manning. 

[frankw]

Just now, CarolinaLivin said:

I doubt Andy is anything near our “culture cornerstone” and he was never signed to be that. 

I mean that's his sole reason for being here. He doesn't win football games. He's here to keep Bryce comfortable.

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, frankw said:

The worst case scenario is another losing season with no QB on the roster worth a damn to give the young offensive players any level of  meaningful development. This isn't about winning. This was always going to be a losing season.

You can rabble about people being butthurt but you know as well as I do the odds that we will be discussing this again are fairly high. And the folks who are being most indignant about people discussing it now will probably go missing like always.

Lol. Worst case? I think you mean most likely result.

I don't think people are going to be wasting much breath on Dalton or QB2 if Bryce flounders this year. It's going to be people calling for coaches, GM's and owners heads for the mess we got ourselves in with Bryce in the first place.

Rightfully so.