Week 1 @JAX Grades

[kungfoodude]

4 minutes ago, Castavar said:

It's gotta be, because no way in hell is Bryce at a 71 grade. 

 

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Nah it's correct. Panthers.com has Bryce with 64 snaps yesterday like in the Pic

Listen, I am as skeptical of PFF's grades as anyone but I need someone to tell me how this is a "good" game by Bryce. Who graded that? Elon Musk in a k-hole???

[LinvilleGorge]

23 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Young was better than Chuba? My eyes must of been playing tricks on me.

This is one of those times where PFF plays themselves trying to be cute and coming up with some "well, ackshually..." to justify a grade that just makes absolutely no sense to anyone watching the game. Bryce was unfiltered ass yesterday. There's just no defending it.

 

[uncfan888]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

 

Listen, I am as skeptical of PFF's grades as anyone but I need someone to tell me how this is a "good" game by Bryce. Who graded that? Elon Musk in a k-hole???

PFF has always been a joke 

[PadresPanthersFan]

21 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Get Austin Corbett out of there. If he can't snap the ball OR block, what good is he?

It's not like we don't have two other players who have shown they're capable of playing center.

Speaking of Brady Christensen, why the hell was he not starting at LT? Nijman should be a last resort, not the first man up.

Add nick Scott to the list of why the f are they starting 

[uncfan888]

Bryce at third on offense and nick Scott at 4th on defense should tell you all you need to know about pff

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is one of those times where PFF plays themselves trying to be cute and coming up with some "well, ackshually..." to justify a grade that just makes absolutely no sense to anyone watching the game. Bryce was unfiltered ass yesterday. There's just no defending it.

 

It's just Bryce in this situation. How the fug is Corbett not in the shitter? 

That grader was high as a kite.

[DeAngelo Beason]

Not surprised.  T Mac was getting wide open, ultra reliable hands, dominating contested catches.  He's going to be a star.  

[LinvilleGorge]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

It's just Bryce in this situation. How the fug is Corbett not in the shitter? 

That grader was high as a kite.

You would think being able to deliver a decent snap would be pretty key to a center's grade.

Like I said, sometimes PFF gets too cute and leans into their system too hard. Maybe they need to tweak their system to weight things differently. I mean, if a center is out there dominating as a blocker but is sailing the ball over the QBs head multiple times, did he actually have a good game? PFF's system would probably say yes whole everyone watching the game would be screaming fug no. Same thing with Bryce. If you had multiple near misses and some drops that hurt your numbers PFF's system will take care of you. But if it's taking care of you there it should be killing you for missing on a walk in TD, making a terrible decision to force a throw on 3rd down when you could've easily jogged for a 1st down, throwing the ball through the back of the endzone on 4th down with a wide open crossing TE available, etc. I mean, when you have half a dozen disastrous plays it needs to reflect in a disastrous grade. Some "checks the box" plays don't make up for that.

The only way I really see PFF as truly useful is comparing players at the same position over a large sample size, like a season. I feel like the larger the sample size the better chance all those things start to even out but at the end of the day, a PFF grade is just that - a PFF grade. It's not like it's some definitive thing. It's a cumulative score based on a formula based on the opinions of the people evaluating the plays. That's it, that's all. But they do need to tweak some things. Instead of watching a game and being like "wow, I thought that guy played like poo but turns out 'muh system' says he was decent" the reaction should be "I know that guy played like poo so that tells me 'muh system' needs some tweaking".

[CRA]

PFF will remind you over and over again.....why they can't be actually be trusted and often put out bunk info.   Bryce with the #3 best O performance is your reminder.  No sane person would actually say BY was better Sunday than Hubbard nor would say they they were even in the same ballpark that day. 

No one should be paying for PFF if that's what they are saying after Sunday. 

[Icege]

39 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

PFF doesn't even have Week 1 grades up yet or I don't see them, anyway.

Lemme double check filters. Pretty sure I had on regular season. 

EDIT: Confirmed. These are the grades.

Edited yesterday at 03:22 PM by Icege

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, Icege said:

Lemme double check filters. Pretty sure I had on regular season. 

USA Today has the same numbers up in their weekly top 5

https://pantherswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/panthers/2025/09/08/panthers-pff-grades-jaguars-week-1/86041090007/

I would write PFF and demand a refund I still paid for their stuff.  I quit a long time ago when they would just randomly put out some mindboggling stuff.  Overall, I do like them for some things.   But they get whacked out sometimes with stuff that is just wildly off.  Whatever formula they use to check their boxes....can still run counter to basic reality at times when it all dumps in. 

[carpanfan96]

32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

This is one of those times where PFF plays themselves trying to be cute and coming up with some "well, ackshually..." to justify a grade that just makes absolutely no sense to anyone watching the game. Bryce was unfiltered ass yesterday. There's just no defending it.

 

They still trying to protect them saying Bryce was a can't miss prospect who would immediately become a Solid NFL starter as a rookie. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

Trevin Wallace has 0 instincts 

[carpanfan96]

Now that the 71 is confirmed...that's just plain asinine on every level. It's absolutely inconceivable.