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Week 1 @JAX Grades


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While we're still within the 24-hour overreaction window, I've found that going and looking at the film to see how PFF came up with their grade helps a lot more than just doing the usual belly aching.

For example: I thought Moehrig and Turk played relatively well but their grades say otherwise. When I watch the all-22 for the defense, I'm going to be looking to see if the film matches the grade and the stat line. Trusting my eyes based on what they saw in the moment Sunday over what they see when the film is slowed down and I can get more information just doesn't make much sense to me.

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4 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

They still trying to protect them saying Bryce was a can't miss prospect who would immediately become a Solid NFL starter as a rookie. 

Definitely seems to be a lot of that out there and not just from PFF. I've never seen the entire football world be so collectively wrong about a prospect when the truth was always right there. They got so caught up in this "super processor football savant" storyline that they just completely ignored what their eyes should've been telling them. At the end of the day, if you simply don't have the physical ability to do it then nothing else matters. 

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Definitely seems to be a lot of that out there and not just from PFF. I've never seen the entire football world be so collectively wrong about a prospect when the truth was always right there. They got so caught up in this "super processor football savant" storyline that they just completely ignored what their eyes should've been telling them. At the end of the day, if you simply don't have the physical ability to do it then nothing else matters. 

The thing is... He wasn't a great processor in college. He relied on wide open players and being off schedule to look good. 

He constantly missed line reads that lead to him taking a sack or having to go off schedule. Then he had happy feet which made the line reads and always being off schedule even worse. 

 

I literally just don't get why he was so highly ranked. It baffles my mind. 

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3 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Ickey missing the game was a massive  blow, Nijman have up multiple pressures and was just awful 

Corbett's multiple high snaps hurt too because that means Bryce is going to have to be focusing more on that vs. the first step one of his keys takes.

Hoping that Icky makes it back into the lineup and that the team considers inserting Mays back in as a starter if Corbett shows the same issues at practice this week.

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Just now, carpanfan96 said:

The thing is... He wasn't a great processor in college. He relied on wide open players and being off schedule to look good. 

He constantly missed line reads that lead to him taking a sack or having to go off schedule. Then he had happy feet which made the line reads and always being off schedule even worse. 

 

I literally just don't get why he was so highly ranked. It baffles my mind. 

I've never seen it before. Usually top prospects get nitpicked to death, especially QBs. You watch a guy out there throwing lasers  between the numbers and they'll be like "that ball placement should've been a little more out front to lead the receiver" but with Bryce you watch a little guy floating wounded ducks to wide open receivers having to slow down to wait for the ball to get there and they act like teenage girls who just met Taylor Swift. It was utterly bizarre.

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3 minutes ago, Panthering said:

Might be an overreaction but keeping Evero might have been a horrendous mistake. I was on the side of keeping him for some reason, but I hate watching his unit play. 

Virtually all of us wanted him fired after last year. Would that have been unfair to him given the overall lack of talent and injuries? Maybe, but a lot of that subpar talent were guys the Panthers were bragging about Evero personally being involved with targeting in FA. At the end of the day, when you field a historically inept unit you gotta go.

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I just don't know what, if any, logic there is behind any of our decisions. We draft a gamechanger WR at #8, I'd like to see us do some unique things with him? Let him go up for some jump balls? Why are we drafting more RBs? We have Hubbard, signed Dowdle and have a 2nd rnd pick on IR. Why are we drafting edge dudes 2nd and 3rd and they aren't even starters on the worst defense ever? Like holy chit I just don't understand anything. I would rather see us just absolutely huck the rock all over the field and throw 10 interceptions than what I saw yesterday

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