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Bryce Young is a problem — what would you do if you were Dan Morgan?

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15 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

The way they draft has played out makes me think Tepper, or at least his system, is still involved. Our drafting looks based more of an algorithm and some analytic model than watching actual football or even common sense. Now we've brought PFF into the building. More analytics. Where are the guys that just watch football. This guy can separate. This guy rises under pressure. This guy has a feel for the flow of the game. Bend. Hands. Footwork. Just fuging football. Its like we're watching fantasy football based drafting and team building except there isn't a waiver wire to pick up the hot replacement for one of your bust picks.

The Tepper's are still involved behind the scenes unfortunately. When Fitterer leaves and we're still drafting the same mold of WR's after busts TMJ and Mingo and we're trading up for injured RB's it's more than just Morgan being inept. Dan although a good guy and a Panthers legend is clearly IMO taking much of his cues from ownership. We have cut off our nose to spite our face in order to surround Bryce with as much talent as possible in order to attempt to "fix" him and justify the investment in direct detriment to the rest of the roster. And that points directly to the Tepper's.

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1 hour ago, Killah_Ray said:

I actually don’t think Canales is a problem, but Dan has made some really really stupid draft choices. XL over McConkey and the Brooks selection altogether were the epitome of stupid fuging picks. 
 

Bryce will be lucky to flounder in the league past 2 seasons after we finally cut bait with him. 

I dont know if Canales is a problem or not, we wont know until he can get a guy that can operate his offense.  But I do now his shtick will wear thin with another 5ish game season

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24 minutes ago, Wanderlai said:

Bryce is going to get Dan fired

We all know it, but there are def receipts in that building of who wanted Young and who wanted stroud.  I know the company like was that EVERYONE (lol thats funny) down to a man in that building wanted young  but if morgan had reservations then that should play well with tepper.  If he was dying on the bryce hill with the rest then thats a problem

30 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

I could not believe XL was drafted ahead of Ladd

i recall Young's father pushing for him

Canales  was looking for an  equivalent to Dk Metcalf and Mike Evans

he got Jonathan Mingo with personally 

So was a certain owner

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6 hours ago, CmC2k said:

Bryce is a really smart kid

Is he tho?

that’s what all the scouts said but everything else they said really isn’t true and nothing makes me think Bryce is particularly intelligent. I think he’s just been trained to answer questions his whole life which just makes him an actor. 

and believe me there’s not a dumber collection of people than actors. 

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57 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Is he tho?

that’s what all the scouts said but everything else they said really isn’t true and nothing makes me think Bryce is particularly intelligent. I think he’s just been trained to answer questions his whole life which just makes him an actor. 

and believe me there’s not a dumber collection of people than actors. 

 

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19 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Is he tho?

that’s what all the scouts said but everything else they said really isn’t true and nothing makes me think Bryce is particularly intelligent. I think he’s just been trained to answer questions his whole life which just makes him an actor. 

and believe me there’s not a dumber collection of people than actors. 

that is why I wanted Morgan to get Max Brosmer from Minnesota in the AT trade.  He reads lightning quick--his measurables are solid--but better than young. great footwork.  He simply needs time.  He is accurate--at WORST he'd be a solid backup for another decade, but I see him starting somewhere one day soon.   

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