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Bryce Young Can't Take the Pressure

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1 minute ago, Eazy-E said:

It’s not even the pressure. He literally doesn’t have the ability to play QB against an NFL defense when they are actually trying. 

The Cardinals were trying on the 2nd to last drive, but the pressure (I don't mean pass rush) was much less.

He seems able to be a good QB when he has little to no pressure on him, e.g. last season near the end.  But the start of the season when we're still a competitive team, he really struggles.

Also he needs to just start chucking it up to Tmac the way he used to Thielen.

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1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

Suspiciously it coincided well with when the score got very close, too.

What's the excuse for his play in the first half?

Not making one.

Young got off to a bad start, but had the team within a score of winning from 20 points down. Then that last drive suffered a lot with Corbett and Hunt both out.

That's not a "biggest bust ever" performance, especially not when Xavier Legette plays as badly as he did.

He had a lot of good moments. It's disingenuous to make excuses to discount them. Evaluate him honestly.

And on that front: To be clear, I'm still not convinced we need to stick with Bryce, but the "worst ever" talk is kinda silly.

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4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not making one.

Young got off to a bad start, but had the team within a score of winning from 20 points down. Then that last drive suffered a lot with Corbett and Hunt both out.

That's not a "biggest bust ever" performance, especially not when Xavier Legette plays as badly as he did.

He had a lot of good moments. It's disingenuous to make excuses to discount them. Evaluate him honestly.

And on that front: To be clear, I'm still not convinced we need to stick with Bryce, but the "worst ever" talk is kinda silly.

XL is definitely a worse player, but was taken at the end of the round.  What we traded for Bryce makes this so much worse.  But this thread isn't about Bryce being the biggest bust ever, lol.

I did evaluate Bryce honestly - but when it mattered most, he didn't come through.  That was true last game, it was true at the start of this game, and it was true at the end of this game. He no longer has teh excuse of not having a good WR, T-Mac is clearly incredible. The fact this dude needs perfect play from the people around him t o have any success is also ridiculous.

Let's be honest about his play, not just in a handful of 4th quarter drives with the game seemingly out of reach.

edit: Bryce is arguably the worst starting QB in the league over his career.

No small part of that is his inability to deliver when games actually matter.

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I’ve been a Bryce defender from the start.


But after this performance I can’t sign off anymore. I was waiting for him to scan the field and throw it to the open guy for 12 straight plays so we can win the game on that final drive.

He did not and we lost the game. I can’t imagine how angry I would be, defense and special teams stepped up to the plate and gave us a chance at the end and we let them down. This win would have been SEASON defining. Now they go home and wonder what it would take to win with Bryce.

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