Legette is a Luxury to the team.

[kungfoodude]

29 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only potential immediate solution I can see is trying to trade a late round pick for someone's backup QB that actually has NFL tools.

NFL defenses have thoroughly figured out how to take away the things Bryce actually does well. If I'm an opposing HC I'm telling my DC to do NOT let up and go soft unless we're up big late in the 4th. Start focusing on containment with the pass rush and playing soft zone behind it and you're just giving Bryce a life line. You're giving him all the stuff he actually does well while focusing on taking away the stuff he struggles with. Just keep the pressure on and stick to the game plan, we're not playing a typical NFL QB that might make you pay by burning you deep while you're being aggressive.

I wouldn't waste a late round pick on a 3rd string QB. You can just use that late round pick to get one.

[Panthering]

58 minutes ago, CRA said:

in fairness, Saunders didn't block his guy on the handoff and Bryce didn't sell the quick screen at all.  The one DE you are supposed to fool immediately sprints to attack XL. 

 

I saw that, that wasn't XL's fault for sure. My comment was about his college tape though, he does not run north south at all in these types of plays. 

[raleigh-panther]

1 hour ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

Legette and luxury have no business in the same sentence with each other.

Lol

 That is Bryce.  He is ‘super’ excited to play with his ’ super’ talented ‘luxury’ WR

Bryce is a ‘super’ kinda guy

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I wouldn't waste a late round pick on a 3rd string QB. You can just use that late round pick to get one.

Im talking about the now. If you're Canales and Morgan you might not have until next April.

[Panthering]

35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only potential immediate solution I can see is trying to trade a late round pick for someone's backup QB that actually has NFL tools.

NFL defenses have thoroughly figured out how to take away the things Bryce actually does well. If I'm an opposing HC I'm telling my DC to do NOT let up and go soft unless we're up big late in the 4th. Start focusing on containment with the pass rush and playing soft zone behind it and you're just giving Bryce a life line. You're giving him all the stuff he actually does well while focusing on taking away the stuff he struggles with. Just keep the pressure on and stick to the game plan, we're not playing a typical NFL QB that might make you pay by burning you deep while you're being aggressive.

The Saints keep trying to replace Spencer Rattler, if they do that this offseason in the draft, I would be trading for him immediately. Guy has an NFL arm and continuing to develop. Has flashed these first two games this year. 

[CPF4LIFE]

1 hour ago, Proudiddy said:

I watched a breakdown on XL recently, maybe it was here, but I’m less critical of him afterwards.  He showed every touch he had against AZ, and most of them were doomed from the start.  And I know it seems easy and convenient, but I think it all starts and ends with Bryce.  Until we have someone who is a threat to throw the ball downfield, guys are gonna keep loading up the box and being super aggressive blitzing and closing out on tackles because they have no consequence for NOT doing so.  And then a lot of the targets he got against AZ weren’t even on target.  Much like with those jump balls Bryce threw to Renfrow, just because you get your hands on it doesn’t mean it’s catchable ball.

Thank you. And I agree!!!

[CPF4LIFE]

I love how lack of effort can be confused with being upset that your qb just can't get you the damn ball. You see it all the time with receivers.

You are just doing gasses down the field every play for nothing. 

Edited September 18 by CPF4LIFE

[strato]

26 minutes ago, Panthering said:

The Saints keep trying to replace Spencer Rattler, if they do that this offseason in the draft, I would be trading for him immediately. Guy has an NFL arm and continuing to develop. Has flashed these first two games this year. 

To me, that guy is every bit the pro quarterback Bryce is, with a better NFL physique, and a better arm. 
 

If I totaled up the value of the picks we used for Young, which I haven’t, and compare that to whatever the 5th round pick that secured Rattler… sheesh. And we could have all that value playing other positions. ILB cough cough. 
 

Just looking at the 1st and the 2nd from 2023, not the next year number 1  or the next year’s 2nd, and whatever value DJ Moore could be assigned…

One chart has #1 at 3000, number 59 at 310.

Pick 150? 31

Edit: One way to see it is, for just the first two picks we gave up we could spend a pick in the 5th round for 100 Years.

Edited September 18 by strato

[Panthering]

11 minutes ago, strato said:

To me, that guy is every bit the pro quarterback Bryce is, with a better NFL physique, and a better arm. 
 

If I totaled up the value of the picks we used for Young, which I haven’t, and compare that to whatever the 5th round pick that secured Rattler… sheesh. And we could have all that value playing other positions. ILB cough cough. 
 

Just looking at the 1st and the 2nd from 2023, not the next year number 1  or the next year’s 2nd, and whatever value DJ Moore could be assigned…

One chart has #1 at 3000, number 59 at 310.

Pick 150? 31

Edit: One way to see it is, for just the first two picks we gave up we could spend a pick in the 5th round for 100 Years.

Yeah it's crazy, and why I wanted to draft him even though I knew they never would do that for political reasons in house. Could've really done the Josh Rosen thing and just admitted a mistake after year 1 and at least drafted a backup.

One of my better predictions was thinking Spencer Rattler is going to make an NFL franchise very happy, especially with the low cost of his pick. Arm has always popped off the screen despite his mistake-prone play. 

[strato]

12 minutes ago, Panthering said:

Yeah it's crazy, and why I wanted to draft him even though I knew they never would do that for political reasons in house. Could've really done the Josh Rosen thing and just admitted a mistake after year 1 and at least drafted a backup.

One of my better predictions was thinking Spencer Rattler is going to make an NFL franchise very happy, especially with the low cost of his pick. Arm has always popped off the screen despite his mistake-prone play. 

Yeah me too. We should have taken him. He was a much better bet than most of what you find that far down. He might have been 5 stars coming out of high school, I don’t know. Just that he was highly thought of. His college career didn’t get off to a great start and he ended up on a bad team with bad protection. But you could watch him and see what he had.

I don’t see a way he doesn’t have a long career as a #2, at worst. 

Edited September 18 by strato

[Panthering]

23 minutes ago, strato said:

Yeah me too. We should have taken him. He was a much better bet than most of what you find that far down. He might have been 5 stars coming out of high school, I don’t know. Just that he was highly thought of. His college career didn’t get off to a great start and he ended up on a bad team with bad protection. But you could watch him and see what he had.

I don’t see a way he doesn’t have a long career as a #2, at worst. 

Agreed. Maybe we get lucky and its a Jake Delhomme 2.0 situation where the Saints move to another QB and we can sign or trade for him because he wants to be a starter. Then we just have a fun gunslinger again which would be a nice change of pace. But I fear he might end up meshing well with Kellen Moore in NO and they might be smart for once and just draft for the roster. 

[TD alt]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I watched a breakdown on XL recently, maybe it was here, but I’m less critical of him afterwards.  He showed every touch he had against AZ, and most of them were doomed from the start.  And I know it seems easy and convenient, but I think it all starts and ends with Bryce.  Until we have someone who is a threat to throw the ball downfield, guys are gonna keep loading up the box and being super aggressive blitzing and closing out on tackles because they have no consequence for NOT doing so.  And then a lot of the targets he got against AZ weren’t even on target.  Much like with those jump balls Bryce threw to Renfrow, just because you get your hands on it doesn’t mean it’s catchable ball.

Well wonders never cease.

[Tr3ach]

2 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

I watched a breakdown on XL recently, maybe it was here, but I’m less critical of him afterwards.  He showed every touch he had against AZ, and most of them were doomed from the start.  And I know it seems easy and convenient, but I think it all starts and ends with Bryce.  Until we have someone who is a threat to throw the ball downfield, guys are gonna keep loading up the box and being super aggressive blitzing and closing out on tackles because they have no consequence for NOT doing so.  And then a lot of the targets he got against AZ weren’t even on target.  Much like with those jump balls Bryce threw to Renfrow, just because you get your hands on it doesn’t mean it’s catchable ball.

He has no effort out there for one.  Number 2 they have realized he has to be a gimmick guy.  We are always chasing a deebo guy for some reason but our deebo never runs north and south and cant break tackles.

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Panthering said:

The Saints keep trying to replace Spencer Rattler, if they do that this offseason in the draft, I would be trading for him immediately. Guy has an NFL arm and continuing to develop. Has flashed these first two games this year. 

Spencer Rattler sucks. Can we please stop dumpster diving. It has never ended well for us.