Al Wallace speaks the truth

[cranky]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

Unfortunately Bryce Young won't be able to play opposite a QB gifting us points every week.

We've got a tough stretch of games coming up. Some of you hardline Bryce guys might want to pace yourselves.

Any of the next 4 (Patriots, Dolphins, Cowboys, Jets) are winnable

[frankw]

Just now, electro's horse said:

the next month is patriots, dolphins, cowboys and jets

you're half a month ahead

Those 3 specific games are through November 2nd. So a little over a month.

Not sure what we're arguing about.

[frankw]

1 minute ago, cranky said:

Any of the next 4 (Patriots, Dolphins, Cowboys, Jets) are winnable

Jets played the Bucs pretty tough recently the Cowboys always give us problems outside of rare ones like 2015 and the Patriots or Dolphins could be a toss up.

[Proudiddy]

Hey, that’s a cool clip!

maybe check out Jake Delhomme, who also is on Panthers payroll (and happened to play the same position as Bryce at a highly competitive level) and see what he had to say about yesterday’s game on the post-game radio show.  He literally said “not trying to be a debbie downer” but, said that Bryce and the offense left a ton of plays out there on the field and a lot to be desired.  He focused on the same shortcomings that most objective observers (of our QB position) have been stating ad nauseam.  He wasn’t overly celebratory or doing any of the glazing that Al and most of the paid endorsers are doing.  Most would feel Jake’s tone and message was quite negative, but in reality, it’s just the truth.

[Proudiddy]

49 minutes ago, frankw said:

Jets played the Bucs pretty tough recently the Cowboys always give us problems outside of rare ones like 2015 and the Patriots or Dolphins could be a toss up.

Also have to know the officiating is going to be hell for us vs the Cowboys.

[TLGPanthersFan]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

Dude literally collects a paycheck to put out positive Panthers PR

Bryce Young doesn’t get rattled? Well, that’s how you know.  Because we all know he gets rattled.

Definitely seemed to get rattled against the Jaguars and Cardinals. 

[cranky]

3 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Hey, that’s a cool clip!

maybe check out Jake Delhomme, who also is on Panthers payroll (and happened to play the same position as Bryce at a highly competitive level) and see what he had to say about yesterday’s game on the post-game radio show.  He literally said “not trying to be a debbie downer” but, said that Bryce and the offense left a ton of plays out there on the field and a lot to be desired.  He focused on the same shortcomings that most objective observers (of our QB position) have been stating ad nauseam.  He wasn’t overly celebratory or doing any of the glazing that Al and most of the paid endorsers are doing.  Most would feel Jake’s tone and message was quite negative, but in reality, it’s just the truth.

I'm looking for the video but I found this from SI (from 3 days ago) in the meantime.

"If you remove the turnovers, which is a pointless exercise since they happened, Bryce Young has been quietly very good. Sometimes, you can live with the turnovers, but the explosive plays to offset them haven't been there, and the turnovers have directly led to points and losses.

But Jake Delhomme thinks that's the one area that needs to be cleaned up. Otherwise, Young has been strong. "We saw Bryce end the year well. I saw him play decent the first few weeks (this season). It’s just the turnovers, that’s something that’s killed him," he said via The Athletic's Joe Person."

[OldhamA]

2 hours ago, cranky said:

I'm looking for the video but I found this from SI (from 3 days ago) in the meantime.

"If you remove the turnovers, which is a pointless exercise since they happened, Bryce Young has been quietly very good. Sometimes, you can live with the turnovers, but the explosive plays to offset them haven't been there, and the turnovers have directly led to points and losses.

But Jake Delhomme thinks that's the one area that needs to be cleaned up. Otherwise, Young has been strong. "We saw Bryce end the year well. I saw him play decent the first few weeks (this season). It’s just the turnovers, that’s something that’s killed him," he said via The Athletic's Joe Person."

Can we please stop quoting shills for the organisation?

[DeAngelo Beason]

I love the mention of Hunter Renfrow, who might be leading the league in receiving yards and touchdowns right now if Bryce Young could hit the broad side of a barn...

[AceBoogie]

7 hours ago, frankw said:

Unfortunately Bryce Young won't be able to play opposite a QB gifting us points every week.

We've got a tough stretch of games coming up. Some of you hardline Bryce guys might want to pace yourselves.

Are you can root for your team Grinch. 

[panthers55]

What did he say that was wrong? Bryce keeps rebounding and bouncing back? He is developing chemistry with wide receivers? He handles adversity? He was a good leader even when he was benched?

All those things are widely known and acknowledged by players and the media. Did Al say he was great or a top quarterback? Did he say our offense was good? Let's see how this plays out. I am all for bringing in competition at QB and said so this year before the draft. But I am gonna root for Bryce as long as he us here.

Done for now going to go shoot some black powder rifles at the range today.

[Loyalty4Life]

Love it.

Prodiddy says we should check out what a former professional QB, Jake Delhomme, says about Bryce.  He points out areas where the offense and Bryce need to be better.  Completely agree.

Then Cranky posts quotes from Jake that balances out the criticism with the positive things Bryce is doing.

The very next post OldhamA asks why are we even listening to former professional QB's talk about Bryce since he works for the team.

See, Jake even says he sucks.
Here's the whole quote.
Nevermind, don't listen to Jake.

I know it's not that big a deal.  I just find it funny what and how people use quotes or clips to support their arguments and how easy things can be taken out of context until you read or watch the entire thing.  No disrespect meant to either guy.

Edited 2 hours ago by Loyalty4Life

[panthers55]

9 minutes ago, Loyalty4Life said:

Love it.

Prodiddy says we should check out what a former professional QB, Jake Delhomme, says about Bryce.  He points out areas where the offense and Bryce need to be better.  Completely agree.

Then Cranky posts quotes from Jake that balances out the criticism with the positive things Bryce is doing.

The very next post OldhamA asks why are we even listening to former professional QB's talk about Bryce since he works for the team.

I know it's not that big a deal.  I just find it funny what and how people use quotes or clips to support their arguments and how easy things can be taken out of context until you read or watch the entire thing.  No disrespect meant to either guy.

Mostly because once a huddler establishes a position and someone disagrees, it become a contest to win the argument and a reputation to save. Justifying their position  becomes more important than the Panthers or the players since their ego and position on this message board is being challenged. That is why few people actually have an open mind or are willing to change their opinion.

[Icege]

Somebody says something positive about Bryce Young: "They're a shill on the company payroll!"

Somebody says something negative about Bryce Young: "Finally, a balanced and realistic take."