Don't do this to yourselves again folks

[BlazeCarolina]

2 minutes ago, SOJA said:

can you tell my wife I'm logical? She's starting to move further away from me on the couch rn 

I mean you are making her watch this...my wife is asleep, and I can't blame her.

[SetfreexX]

9 minutes ago, SOJA said:

I can buy week 2 but again we are not a good team rn. 

I'll be fine if we move on from Bryce at the end of this year but yall are kidding yourself if you think this team is a competitor with Brock Purdy at the helm 

No one said that, but QBs ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ON TEAM.

If your QB is limited, your team is limited. With consistency in the competency dept. we could at least be a .500 club. 

So not only is Bryce limited with his on the field skill set...he's not consistently competent. Which spells disaster. 

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I just don't want this place to be all doom and gloom.  Not like it is going to change anything.

We actually had a pretty decent draft this year imo.  If there is going to be complaints, why not actually make logical suggestions for change that can be discussed instead of this we shouldn't have done this or Tepper should sell the team stances?

Hindsight and complaining are not beneficial.

I have. Bench Bryce and trade for someone like Jameis or Howell. Someone who had proven they can put up numbers but should be relatively cheap. See if Canales can show something with a QB who has NFL tools but has struggled with turnovers. 

[UnluckyforSome]

bRyCe DoEsN't HaVe AnY wEaPoNs ThOuGh.

[LinvilleGorge]

14 minutes ago, SOJA said:

I can buy week 2 but again we are not a good team rn. 

I'll be fine if we move on from Bryce at the end of this year but yall are kidding yourself if you think this team is a competitor with Brock Purdy at the helm 

I don't think Canales survives if we're limited to Bryce and the ghost of Dalton. We should try to find a bandaid to give him a chance to show something because I don't think anyone with other options is coming to work for Tepper at this point and that's why Canales and Morgan are here to begin with.

[SOJA]

2 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

No one said that, but QBs ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS ON TEAM.

If your QB is limited, your team is limited. With consistency in the competency dept. we could at least be a .500 club. 

So not only is Bryce limited with his on the field skill set...he's not consistently competent. Which spells disaster. 

I really don't see how yall aren't getting me saying I'm fine with moving on from Bryce

I'm just pointing out we have issues which extend beyond him. 

Maybe if I say this it will stop the replies. Bryce is our number one problem. However we have a lot of problems 

[BlazeCarolina]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have. Bench Bryce and trade for someone like Jameis or Howell. Someone who had proven they can put up numbers but should be relatively cheap. See if Canales can show something with a QB who has NFL tools but has struggled with turnovers. 

I actually wanted Howell coming out of college.  Jameis is a hard one for me to get behind personality wise.  I like his play style though.  At least it is exciting.

I could get behind a plan like that.  

[SOJA]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think Canales survives if we're limited to Bryce and the ghost of Dalton. We should try to find a bandaid to give him a chance to show something because I don't think anyone with other options is coming to work for Tepper at this point and that's why Canales and Morgan are here to begin with.

that' a very fair point, I don't think Canales is a good HC either but Tepper has shown zero ability to get a good HC and it's only going to get harder now 

[Hoenheim]

54 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

When Bryce dinks and dunks against prevent D the entire 2nd half don't delude yourselves into thinking he showed improvement and "bounced back" after half. You know if I'm talking to you. Stop doing this to yourselves.

He's not even doing that much

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, BlazeCarolina said:

I actually wanted Howell coming out of college.  Jameis is a hard one for me to get behind personality wise.  I like his play style though.  At least it is exciting.

I could get behind a plan like that.  

Jameis seems awesome. He seems dumb as a rock but also a legitimately decent guy who's fun.

[BlazeCarolina]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Jameis seems awesome. He seems dumb as a rock but also a legitimately decent guy who's fun.

I was one of the guys pulling for bringing in Minshew when that was a thing.  Don't know how he's doing or if it is still possible as all I watch is Panthers ball.

See man, this is all I want.  I would much rather have some discussions like this about what we could do than everyone standing around yelling and trying to burn stuff.

We have a lot of positives going for us, even though it doesn't seem like it.  (One of the best CB duos in the league, solid o-line which we haven't had in seemingly forever, good recent draft with a GM that has the ability to find some gems, two of the most promising RBs on paper from last season, just to name a few.)

[Jackie Lee]

God these announcers still giving Bryce the excuse of not enough help around him lol. They may have done a bad job but they tried, and if that's the case fire everyone

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Hoenheim said:

He's not even doing that much

Good. The main I wanted out of this season was the Bryce question definitively answered. I would've much preferred he prove me wrong but absolutely faceplanting is far preferable than still leaving us in some gray area of questioning.

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I have. Bench Bryce and trade for someone like Jameis or Howell. Someone who had proven they can put up numbers but should be relatively cheap. See if Canales can show something with a QB who has NFL tools but has struggled with turnovers. 

You have to know if anything is there in Canales too. He needs a chance with a QB that can run his game plan. If this gets torn down again, everyone in the building needs to go. No holdovers, no anyone. Maybe Canales is poo too. But if we ever want another coach to come here for any reason other than money, we better give this one a fair shot.