Boycott Tepper

[strato]

I fail to see where we would have power to do anything but maybe get the team moved away. 
It isn’t a coach trying get fired or player benched or drafted it is the owner selling the team. The owner who probably has more money than all the people that would fill his stadium. Or half fill in this case. Combined. 

[ImfromClayton]

The only place to hurt him is his wallet, but unfortunately, with this being such a transplant city, I'm not sure we are capable of doing that. I think we are stuck with him. Tickets will always sell, and the NFL operates on a shared revenue model anyway.  So even boycotting merch is not going to impact him at all. People would have to stop going to concerts and soccer for it to matter at all. And the soccer team is actually good. All that said, his net worth is so high, there is literally nothing we could do that would impact him financially. It would have to be ego/reputation based. Like wearing bags on our heads.  Not sure he would even care about that though.  If we could get enough panther fans in the stadium and get organized in embarrassing the guy, that would be the most impactful, but I just don't see that happening when the visiting team gets at least 40% of our tickets on any given sunday.

And the owner has far more money than the 80K people in the stadium, even if you include the players. He is one of the wealthiest people on earth. were not hurting him really. We are basically stuck hoping that he becomes self aware. Someone above estimated that his net worth was 25% Panthers. I'm not sure that's close. I think the Panthers are something around 10% of his net worth. 

Edit: I don't mean to turn this conversation into something it's not, but the chances that he sells the team are so low, I actually think it would take some sort of political overthrow, or change in the structure of our entire economy and government for him to get rid of this thing willingly.  And I'm not sure I'd call that willingly. Only way forward is to try to change the guy, either by showing how much the org means to people in this region, or by shame. 

Edited 5 hours ago by ImfromClayton

[HaricotVert]

The dirty secret of the modern NFL is that fan anger or boycotts barely dent a team’s core earnings. With the league’s massive national TV deals and equal revenue sharing, even perennial losers like the Panthers get a guaranteed multimillion-dollar check every year before they sell a single ticket or jersey. Franchise values keep climbing because NFL teams are scarce, not because of their win-loss records.

Remember Tepper is an investment guy and from an investment standpoint, building a winner is actually the risky play. It takes hundreds of millions in extra spending on coaches, facilities, and player contracts over years, and the payoff, higher local revenue, brand prestige, and maybe a valuation premium, only materializes if you sustain success. Compared to the baseline 8-12% annual appreciation every team enjoys just by existing, the "extras" from winning looks small and uncertain.

So while we understandably want victories, the business case for winning isn’t as clear-cut. For many Tepper the safer bet is to hold the asset, cash the league’s checks, and let scarcity do the work. In that model, fan wallets just aren’t the lever they used to be.

 

 

If Tepper had the kind of legacy goals of the Hunts or Jerry, or the Fords it might be different

Edited 5 hours ago by HaricotVert

[MechaZain]

Y'all realize he'd have to sell two sports franchises to leave Charlotte right

[Jay Roosevelt]

Boycott what exactly?

[Jon Snow]

The only thing that gets Teppers attention is a sign. Put signs in your yard and he will stop by and you can give him an ear full.

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, MechaZain said:

Y'all realize he'd have to sell two sports franchises to leave Charlotte right

He doesnt have to sell the team right now. Just get out of the office other than the annual Christmas party. Hire a president of operations, collect his dividends from the NFL, and go do whatever else, then sell the Panthers at some point for 10x what he paid for it. 

[strato]

5 hours ago, ImfromClayton said:

 

Edit: I don't mean to turn this conversation into something it's not, but the chances that he sells the team are so low, I actually think it would take some sort of political overthrow, or change in the structure of our entire economy and government for him to get rid of this thing willingly.  And I'm not sure I'd call that willingly. Only way forward is to try to change the guy, either by showing how much the org means to people in this region, or by shame. 

Snipped the bulk off just to focus on the finish. The first thing about show him how much it means to us, is the only thing that could possibly work but I don’t have enough faith in him having that kind of empathy. We know the stories about him his brass balls and tearing down his ex boss’ house. 
The shaming, I think would push him to leave. 

Edited 42 minutes ago by strato