These guys nail the basics on Bryce/Canales/Carolina

[strato]

3 hours ago, Mills said:

When Chris said: "If Mike Vrabel was brought here to coach this team and Canales was on the Patriots, what just happened to the Panthers would've happened to the Patriots". 

That's a sobering thought and brings the state of of our franchise and decision makers into perspective. If that's clear to everyone inside and outside of the building, then changes need to be made.... But you can't change ownership

I haven’t listened to it but if Vrabel didn’t get a different QB for his Panthers squad I can’t agree. 
 

But here is the thing with that: if you told Vrabel he was tied to Bryce for two years, he would not accept the job, IMO. He doesn’t have to. 
Canales was only getting a job as HC if he accepted that condition 

[strato]

2 hours ago, jasonluckydog said:

Young will become a great QB, just not here. We let them go and be stars for other teams. 

What league would those teams play in? Because it isn’t the NFL. 

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, CRA said:

it means you got to make a quick decision while positioned behind the massive OL/DLs.  Bryce needs to drop further to see clearly

That was it for me.

like I remember where I was when I saw that photo. 

my face was Josh mccowns 

Edited 19 hours ago by electro's horse

[mrcompletely11]

mike kaye just gave a brutally honest assessment of this team/franchise/coach etc on the OG podcast.  Damn that dude isnt scared of the teppers.  Says canales could be in real trouble if this all fails and its failing massively, would get a 3rd year but with major changes.

 

38 minutes in

 

Edited 19 hours ago by mrcompletely11

[PNW_PantherMan]

24 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

That was it for me.

like I remember where I was when I saw that photo. 

my face was Josh mccowns 

Look at him waiting for the bus with the big kids 

[mrcompletely11]

Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

Look at him waiting for the bus with the big kids 

him at the combine with his backpack is a classic one as well, it looks like someones little brother wanting to get into the pick up game

[PNW_PantherMan]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

him at the combine with his backpack is a classic one as well, it looks like someones little brother wanting to get into the pick up game

I always see the backpack even when it’s not there 

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I always see the backpack even when it’s not there 

[Proudiddy]

Refuses to pass on 3rd downs despite being down to the point you have to pass and take chances.  Subs him out on QB sneaks.  Refuses to try a Hail Mary from around the 50 down multiple scores, instead runs a little baby TE screen.  Rarely schemes up deep throws.  Runs more often than passes in goal to go because they don’t trust his decision making.  
 

these have all been trends for SEASONS WITH  BRYCE, except for the Hail Mary screen.  Again, if you have a QB that you prefer to sub out situationally, you don’t have a QB.  The fact that we are at this point after so much fuging overwhelming evidence is mind blowing.  He has to have paid someone off or got dirty pictures of someone, because I just can’t fuging understand.

[carolinanimal]

6 hours ago, CRA said:

it means you got to make a quick decision while positioned behind the massive OL/DLs.  Bryce needs to drop further to see clearly

That looks like a kid from make a wish foundation wandered into the field!

[Bear Hands]

14 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Refuses to pass on 3rd downs despite being down to the point you have to pass and take chances.  Subs him out on QB sneaks.  Refuses to try a Hail Mary from around the 50 down multiple scores, instead runs a little baby TE screen.  Rarely schemes up deep throws.  Runs more often than passes in goal to go because they don’t trust his decision making.  
 

these have all been trends for SEASONS WITH  BRYCE, except for the Hail Mary screen.  Again, if you have a QB that you prefer to sub out situationally, you don’t have a QB.  The fact that we are at this point after so much fuging overwhelming evidence is mind blowing.  He has to have paid someone off or got dirty pictures of someone, because I just can’t fuging understand.

Yep I mean that’s what it comes down to. Analyzing this in a play-by-play manner doesn’t help (although I’ll still respect those who want to dig into that mess)

When you have someone who inhibits the plays you can deploy, the concepts you can scheme in, it’s such a limiting factor and you won’t rise out of it until you try another guy at the spot.  He limits the entire system down to physical, unchangeable traits… we are restricted in what we can run, and he can’t even run the limited playbook effectively. So that’s why I stopped bothering with play-by-play looks. It’s clear it’s the bigger infrastructural issue.

[CRA]

14 hours ago, Proudiddy said:

Refuses to pass on 3rd downs despite being down to the point you have to pass and take chances.  Subs him out on QB sneaks.  Refuses to try a Hail Mary from around the 50 down multiple scores, instead runs a little baby TE screen.  Rarely schemes up deep throws.  Runs more often than passes in goal to go because they don’t trust his decision making.  
 

these have all been trends for SEASONS WITH  BRYCE, except for the Hail Mary screen.  Again, if you have a QB that you prefer to sub out situationally, you don’t have a QB.  The fact that we are at this point after so much fuging overwhelming evidence is mind blowing.  He has to have paid someone off or got dirty pictures of someone, because I just can’t fuging understand.

Deep throws are there.  You insert a different QB and that QB just looks to execute them. 

We have seen that every year when Bryce gets benched.  Datlon will push the D back and crank it 30 or 40+. 

Issue is Dalton is just washed.  

[CPF4LIFE]

Should have been a 4th or 5th round pick at best. And a lot of that was based off winning the heisman. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, CPF4LIFE said:

Should have been a 4th or 5th round pick at best. And a lot of that was based off winning the heisman. 

There's been more Heisman winners fail in the league than I can count. Its not a way to pick a sure thing in the nfl.