Should we roll the dice on....

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

True but that's not saying much.

I haven't seen anyone who jumps off the screen at QB.

Mendoza has his moments but rarely has to beyond his first read.

Sellers is a physical freak, but hasn't played like it.

Nussmeier looks good against college defenses but doesn't exactly tick all the physical boxes himself. A taller Bryce Young?

Dante Moore looks like a good college QB surrounded by a lot of talent who will be overwhelmed in the pros.

Drew Allar... very similar to Sellers. Has the physical tools but doesn't always play like it.

Carson Beck is erratic as hell, even if he also has many of the traits you look for.

If I HAD to use a 1st round pick on one of those guys it's going to be Sellers just based off physical traits but he's not remotely ready to start as a rookie and I'm fairly convinced he's going to end up returning to school, though not necessarily South Carolina.

Yeah, so far this highly touted class is looking very meh. If I had to take a guy today I'd take Mendoza. I'm intrigued as hell by Sellers but he's been underwhelming this year while also acknowledging that his OL is complete ass. Still plenty of football left to play. Hoping some guys really emerge but we'll see.

[heel31ok]

5 hours ago, RumHam said:

Shadeur? It literally wouldn't be any worse than this. It would gain some rep with the media. A call should be made but it won't. 

Why make another mistake. Build with bpa until the right guy comes a long.we are looking at 3yrs at best.

[Butterflyj30]

I'm sure I read that Coach Prime didn't want Shadeur coming to the Panthers

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Butterflyj30 said:

I'm sure I read that Coach Prime didn't want Shadeur coming to the Panthers

He didn't want him going to the Browns either but once you start plummeting down the draft board you go from trying to dictate to just hoping you get a chance. To Deion's credit he seems to have realized that he wasn't helping his son's situation and has shut up.

[Butterflyj30]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

He didn't want him going to the Browns either but once you start plummeting down the draft board you go from trying to dictate to just hoping you get a chance. To Deion's credit he seems to have realized that he wasn't helping his son's situation and has shut up.

I agree and I think he realized the error in his ways I think the Sons did too 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Butterflyj30 said:

I agree and I think he realized the error in his ways I think the Sons did too 

I just think they really misunderstood Shedeur's draft prospects. Travis Hunter was a legit elite NFL prospect. Shedeur wasn't. Shiloh wasn't NFL caliber, period. They just really thought that Shedeur was right up there with Hunter in terms of NFL draft stock and I never saw it. Even when the media was following right along with Deion barking about it. I got called a hater saying all along that Shedeur wasn't a 1st round prospect. He seemed like the stereotypical good college QB that had a lot of questions marks in terms of translating to the NFL that typically goes somewhere on the mid-rounds.

[PantherChris]

5 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Go get me Jameis or Howell. Get me a guy who has proven he can put up numbers. Forget the turnovers, we just need to see if Canales can field an offense that can produce given a QB with NFL tools. The Bryce question feels answered. Now we need to answer the Canales question.

The reality is that Shedeur has looked like ass except against our camp bodies - the camp bodies of one of if not the worst team in the league. He looked like ass against our primary backups. He didn't do anything until we were playing Amazon warehouse workers.

I really think a Howell could have a Baker esque career change in the right system... 

 

But yeah give us a gunslinger who can put up points even if it comes with TOs

[Jon Snow]

35 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

And again, which current QB prospects really fit that criteria? I'd love for there to be a QB worth taking, but I'm just not seeing it right now.

Right now is not the time to judge any of them. There's a few games yet to be played. They will have to take a shot at one of them anyway so let's hope a few of them show some promise. We are in qb purgatory my brother so it's going to take a lot of luck to find our way out.

[PNW_PantherMan]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I just think they really misunderstood Shedeur's draft prospects. Travis Hunter was a legit elite NFL prospect. Shedeur wasn't. Shiloh wasn't NFL caliber, period. They just really thought that Shedeur was right up there with Hunter in terms of NFL draft stock and I never saw it. Even when the media was following right along with Deion barking about it. I got called a hater saying all along that Shedeur wasn't a 1st round prospect. He seemed like the stereotypical good college QB that had a lot of questions marks in terms of translating to the NFL that typically goes somewhere on the mid-rounds.

Maybe watching Bryce go 1st overall did more damage than we realized.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Right now is not the time to judge any of them. There's a few games yet to be played. They will have to take a shot at one of them anyway so let's hope a few of them show some promise. We are in qb purgatory my brother so it's going to take a lot of luck to find our way out.

The one thing we can't do again is go all in and mortgage the entire short to mid-term future on one prospect. The draft is just too much of a crap shoot to do that. There's no such thing as a sure thing in the draft. But when you trade a king's ransom in draft capital and a good starter to get a guy it's absolutely gutting if he busts. A top pick bust always sucks but at the end of the day all that cost you was one pick. You gotta leave it at that. You can't let a mistake cost you multiple 1sts, a 2nd, and a starting WR. 

[Swaggasaurus]

I’d trade Legette for Sanders straight up or Sanders for a third. I hate watched all of Sanders games. I actually respect that mf quite a bit. He got his ass beat on every drop back and stated competitive, never got scared, never panicked. 

[SOJA]

I actually think it behooves us to play Bryce the whole year. If he sucks you get a higher draft pick and even if you don't draft a QB and go the veteran route you can trade down or get bain from Miami or downs from Ohio st

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Swaggasaurus said:

I’d trade Legette for Sanders straight up or Sanders for a third. I hate watched all of Sanders games. I actually respect that mf quite a bit. He got his ass beat on every drop back and stated competitive, never got scared, never panicked. 

It's similar to Bryce though. I agree with you on Shedeur as a college QB. Absolutely. In terms of NFL prospects though, I would always point out that he doesn't have a single plus trait as an NFL QB. There's nothing about his measurables that are above average for an NFL QB. And then you had the playing style issue. Running around to buy time before chucking up a prayer to your elite NFL prospect teammate wasn't going to translate. I said the same thing about Shedeur that I said about Bryce, it's hard for me to look at his college play and point out many plays that I can say "See, that right there translates to the NFL. That works on Sundays."

[Jay Roosevelt]

22 minutes ago, Swaggasaurus said:

I’d trade Legette for Sanders straight up or Sanders for a third. I hate watched all of Sanders games. I actually respect that mf quite a bit. He got his ass beat on every drop back and stated competitive, never got scared, never panicked. 

I'd trade Legette for a bag of soggy pizza rolls at this point.