Our 2nd Most Productive WR

[Eazy-E]

1 hour ago, shaqattaq said:

As much as I'd like for Bryce to prove us all wrong... He has done absolutely nothing to make me think that he will. I think Teddy Bridgewater level game manager is his ceiling.

Sometimes you just have to cut your loses and stop throwing good money after bad... We fugged up! Now, let Canales draft his QB next season and se how we fare.

We paid Bridgewater 60 million and cut his ass after 1 season because he didn’t have the arm talent to operate the offense. Only difference is Teddy wasn’t Tepper’s little pet project.

[cranky]

2 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Would you like to remind everyone how the majority of those guys looked when Pickles was under center in 2010?

Olsen wasn't here and I am pretty sure Steve Smith was pretty fu*!ing good before Cam. Ask Delhomme.

[PadresPanthersFan]

1 hour ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Just watched those bucs Hawks highlights and good lord....both of them were slinging the ball around. Its definitely a talent issue, I dont know how anybody thinks bryce is just gonna go to another team and start doing that. 

And to think we had both of those qbs.....

[Eazy-E]

Just now, cranky said:

Olsen wasn't here and I am pretty sure Steve Smith was pretty fu*!ing good before Cam. Ask Delhomme.

Way to deflect and not answer the question 

[CRA]

4 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

It should tell you just how bad this situation is for a QB

This guy wouldn’t be on any other teams active roster and he’s been our WR2

Then we have Renfrow who looks like ass. As Horn gets more run and Coker comes back Renfrow won’t see the field. Renfrow was cut for good reason before the season only to be thrusted in the starting lineup one week later 

Renfrow for being a role player has been 100% fine.  Heck he should have at least 4 TDs.  Bryce Young just can’t throw the ball.  When he does look Renfrows way and he is open it’s almost always just a bad throw.  Renfrow also has been out there setting great picks like the big play to TMac, getting Bryce Young horrible turnovers wiped etc. 

You could literally already make a highlight real of bad throws to him by Bryce

and none of that is pimping Renfrow.   It just highlights Bryce fails at basics over and over every week without fail

[*FreeFua*]

5 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Tremayne is a better WR than Young is a QB. Why make so many excuses for Young and not Tremayne?

His play style isn’t what’s needed and he’s slow to get off the time.

Watching some of these all 22 clips and there’s once again a massive lack of speed on the field. 3rd year in a row

I’ve said from day 1 Bryce needs route runners. He’s had one pure route runner and he turned Thielen into a 1000 yard receiver. At age 35.

The Panthers drafted Young to be a “point guard” and proceeded to give him the exact opposite of what he’s needed. It would sure be nice to have a deep threat as well. Something Bryce had at Bama

 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Icege said:

The same folks are going to outright lie in response to this despite the plethora of evidence (including video) that supports it.

Best they might have is a random YouTuber that follows the Chargers and got beat up by a little person in a barfight.

I mean, reality says he can’t.  factually is he is indeed horrible downfield 

3 of 13 with an INT.  Thats reality.

the counter argument that you and ace make….is all what if and excuses and imaginary plays happening that didn’t.

and every year we have this convo and at some point a washed Dalton with step on the field and go downfield in a manner not seen from Bryce with the exact weapons 

 

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

We paid Bridgewater 60 million and cut his ass after 1 season because he didn’t have the arm talent to operate the offense. Only difference is Teddy wasn’t Tepper’s little pet project.

We cut Teddy because he outed an unfit coaching staff as unfit.

checkdown Teddy Bridgewater plays like Brett Favre compared to BY

[cranky]

6 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

Way to deflect and not answer the question 

Ok let me be more specific. Smith was a stud before Newton got here do you not agree? Yes, LaFell improved under Cam but then had his best years after leaving the Panthers with Cam as the QB and going to NE. So he improved playing with someone else. Olsen was in Chicage the year before Cam arrived and statistically had the same numbers his first year with Cam. 

Hope that's clearer for you.

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

Bryce can chuck it, given protection and some work on getting open by the receivers.

I encourage you to go back and watch his college play. Notice how he immediately backpedals to 10 yards behind the LOS on almost every snap. You can't do that in the NFL. Your OTs have no chance of keeping those freak show edge rushers off of you. You can't create a pocket that deep. If you drop back like that in the NFL on a regular basis you're basically on your own. Your OL can't do a whole lot for you.

Bryce can chuck it when he has an airport runway in front of him to step up into. There's a reason why "ease of generating velocity" is such a talking point evaluating QBs. It's not how hard or how far you can throw the ball given a perfect situation. It's how hard and how far you can throw the ball in a typical NFL game situation and that's where a lot of my concerns with Bryce were going into the draft. There were way too many plays in his college tape that if you were watching that purely in terms of translating it to the NFL it just didn't work.

[cranky]

33 minutes ago, Eazy-E said:

PFF has and always will be trash until they disclose their bs grading system. 

See if you can find me a highlight of Bryce hitting a receiver in stride down the sideline with more than 25+ air yards. 

Let's hope you're wrong as the Panther's FO became heavily invested in their system this year. So far, the results look promising. It's early, but the FA and draft picks this year are, so far, looking stronger than they have in years.

[OldhamA]

39 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Cam had no choice. Just like Bryce has no choice but to throw to whatever a brycen Tremayne is

Ginn was a one trick pony and his strength played into Cams strength as a passer. It was a good fit. 

Much like Adam Thielen’s route running ability plays into Young’s strength which is anticipation 

Young turned a 35/36 Adam Thielen into a very productive WR again and now that he’s back in Minnesota he’s no where to be seen 

He'll 'turn' T-Mac into a 1,000 yard receiver too. He hyper focuses on one guy and throws them the ball way more than he should.

The rest of our receiving corps barely gets a look in.

Edited 3 hours ago by OldhamA

[frankw]

39 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Cam had no choice. Just like Bryce has no choice but to throw to whatever a brycen Tremayne is

Ginn was a one trick pony and his strength played into Cams strength as a passer. It was a good fit. 

Much like Adam Thielen’s route running ability plays into Young’s strength which is anticipation 

Young turned a 35/36 Adam Thielen into a very productive WR again and now that he’s back in Minnesota he’s no where to be seen 

We had the 32nd passing offense with Adam Thielen at 1k receiving yards in 2023 just to be clear. Maybe he just isn't the player at this stage in his career that some of you wanted him to be.

[frankw]

39 minutes ago, cranky said:

LOL. Yeah Steve Smith, Brandon LaFell, Jonathan Stewart, Deangelo Williams and Greg Olsen were all trash till Cam got here to elevate their game. 

I didn't say any of that so I have no idea what you're so agitated about.