Where do you fall on the Bryce Young spectrum?

[Mr. Scot]

Still uncertain...

Can he play in the NFL? Yes, he can.

Can he win games? Yes, he can.

Do you have to build the right team around him? Of course you do, same as you do any other quarterback.

(the idea that's somehow a weakness is silly)

At the very least this qualifies him to be a quality backup.

But is he a long term franchise quarterback?

I'm not fully confident enough to say that yet, but he's at least trending upward.

And I'll take that for now...

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

the problem with that logic in 2025 is that our "alex smith" is going to want 4/5 years at 50 million per.  Its a different time then even 7-8 years ago.  You cannot cripple yourself unless you know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is your franchise guy.  And I think even the die hard bryce guys cannot look you in the eye and say that.

 

At the absolute worst I think the best scenario is either draft a dude or sign a vet, kick dalton to the curb and let them fight it out.  No fuging way has he earned the 5th yet

Well, I meant that he could be that type of player for us for 2 more years max. They should at least keep him through the full rookie contract unless we are offered a stupid trade for him.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The team has been slowly leaking this to folks the past 2 weeks.  Whether its in articles or podcasts this is something the panthers/teppers have been floating.  Subtle but its there.

 

They arent going to change a goddamn thing next year.  And hopefully its just the 5th year option and not a massive extension.  In short we are fuged

You definitely can't trust a lot of the current team sources, IMO. Seems like Tepper has purged a lot of the old guard and replaced them with a bunch of scared loyalists. I think the most you are gonna get leaked to the media is company line, for whatever that is worth.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

Well, I meant that he could be that type of player for us for 2 more years max. They should at least keep him through the full rookie contract unless we are offered a stupid trade for him.

I think in general terms in the nfl the trend has been, if he is good enough for the 5th year option then he is good enough for an extension.  With the assumption of pay now, or pay a lot more in a couple of years.  I dont agree with this at all as it locks in a qb and doesnt take advantage of the rookie deal.   I cannot think of a team that simply let a qb play out his 5th year option and then made a decision.  The giants and jones were 4 years and then they gave him a big deal and since have moved on.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You definitely can't trust a lot of the current team sources, IMO. Seems like Tepper has purged a lot of the old guard and replaced them with a bunch of scared loyalists. I think the most you are gonna get leaked to the media is company line, for whatever that is worth.

tep.

 

You cannot read this passage from the article and not think it didnt come from Mint st.

 

Schultz reported "his combination of accuracy and clutch play has led to exciting times in Carolina, and a sustained internal belief that Young is a true franchise QB."

[Waldo]

He isn't a franchise QB and is a great example of a guy you don't want on anything other than a rookie contract. He isn't even worth a 5th year option. 

I don't think he could win a real competition against many other journeyman QBs. Once the Jets are done it's going to be the same old when the running yards get harder to come by every game. Can't play the worst defenses every week, even if that's what it feels like now given how easy the schedule has been so far. 

Edited 4 hours ago by Waldo

[kungfoodude]

12 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

If he ends up being our "Alex Smith" before the next guy, I can't complain too much

So you are saying we need Andy Reid?

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

tep.

 

You cannot read this passage from the article and not think it didnt come from Mint st.

 

Schultz reported "his combination of accuracy and clutch play has led to exciting times in Carolina, and a sustained internal belief that Young is a true franchise QB."

And we have no idea if that is what they actually think at all. 

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

And we have no idea if that is what they actually think at all. 

nah, but someone in that building is floating it to see the reaction.  Like I said, this similar content will eventually get to a writer from the Observer.   

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, Shotgun said:

On a scale of Clausen to Newton, I would rate Young as a solid Teddy B.

Someone to whom a lot of us owe an apology. He was right about Matt Rhule.

PS: Love the "Clausen to Newton" scale

Edited 4 hours ago by Mr. Scot

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Someone to whom a lot of us owe an apology. He was right about Matt Rhule.

PS: Love the "Clausen to Newton" scale

Bridgewater does seem like a good upper end Bryce comp. But....ultimately that IS a career backup player. Not sure if that would have been different had that terrible injury not happened but we dealt with some similar issues while Teddy was here that we are dealing with in Bryce. 

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Bridgewater does seem like a good upper end Bryce comp. But....ultimately that IS a career backup player. Not sure if that would have been different had that terrible injury not happened but we dealt with some similar issues while Teddy was here that we are dealing with in Bryce. 

That may end up being his ceiling.

Still unsettled for me...

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

That may end up being his ceiling.

Still unsettled for me...

I think by the end of this season we really need to have a good idea. I suppose the picking up of the 5th year option seems relatively inevitable unless he falls off a cliff in terms of performance. 

I suspect this decision on his future will still be unanswered during his 5th year.

[d-dave]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I suspect this decision on his future will still be unanswered during his 5th year.

I think if it's still unanswered by the 5th season, then it's already answered lol.