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6 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Yeah but I don't think it lasts too long. In that scenario, Dowdle is CMC and Chuba is Foreman. We really don't know if Etienne or Brooks will be able to replace him Dowdle next season.  

With the exception of Sanders we have been pretty good about cycling them through. 

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, a top 10 RB pick pretty much needs to be a HOFer to be worth it. It's one of the easier positions to find a decent "good" player.

The year we invested in CMC Saints got Kamara in tne 3rd and he outproduced CMC at least the first couple of years. 
I wanted to go after him that year. 

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The year we invested in CMC Saints got Kamara in tne 3rd and he outproduced CMC at least the first couple of years. 
I wanted to go after him that year. 

The injury concern is another knock on drafting the position high. It's tough to stay on the field as a RB. Those guys take a pounding and most are washed in their late 20s. It's like buying a work truck. You don't want to go buy a shiny brand new high dollar truck off the lot just to beat the hell out of it. Go and buy a used truck with low mileage because you know what's almost certainly gonna happen to it.

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Ryans is blaming his kicker for not kicking it out of bounds to have the two minute warning timeout. Noting it because calling out your players publicly like that tends to not be a good indicator on keeping one's job in the long term.

I don't regret drafting CMC. Problem was that we needed him earlier when Cam was in his prime. Instead, he came in once Cam already had his infamous shoulder injury and was already regressing.

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46673558/jets-owner-defends-coach-glenn-blames-winless-start-qb-fields

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He praised Glenn for "turning around parts" of the team, but added, "It's hard when you have a quarterback with a rating that he's got. I mean, he has ability, but something just is not jiving. ... You have to play consistently at that position, and that's what we're going to try to do for the remainder of the season."

Whew. Tepper does have some competition for worst owner.

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4 hours ago, strato said:

The year we invested in CMC Saints got Kamara in tne 3rd and he outproduced CMC at least the first couple of years. 
I wanted to go after him that year. 

To be fair we don't know how Mccaffrey would have looked had he been drafted by the Saints with Sean Peyton and Drew Brees

Nor how Kamara would have looked with Mike Shula. 

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2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

There's gonna be a mutiny on the bounty up there. What a fuggin idiot.

I also think Justin Fields sucks. A lot.

But if he was my employee there is not chance I am trashing him in front of the media for just not being good. I am gonna be lighting up the MFer who decided that was a good personnel decision. IN PRIVATE.

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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/46673558/jets-owner-defends-coach-glenn-blames-winless-start-qb-fields

Whew. Tepper does have some competition for worst owner.

Same asshole that told Mike White he sucked after playing with 5 broken ribs. Not gonna get to it on here but one browse through his wikipedia page yikes lol. Horrible guy

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23 minutes ago, Pantherxtreme said:

To be fair we don't know how Mccaffrey would have looked had he been drafted by the Saints with Sean Peyton and Drew Brees

Nor how Kamara would have looked with Mike Shula. 


That confuses things and begs for speculation. Saints didn’t have the 1.8 for that matter so that is a lot of speculation  Sproles did great for them I would assume CMC would have also. I wasn’t doing anything except saying you don’t need to take a RB that high to get production  

 

The focus of the comparison was value. Even if Kamara was eclipsed by CMC he provided great value. Which was the point. 

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1 minute ago, strato said:


That confuses things and begs for speculation. Saints didn’t have the 1.8 for that matter so that is a lot of speculation  Sproles did great for them I would assume CMC would have also. I wasn’t doing anything except saying you don’t need to take a RB that high to get production  

 

The focus of the comparison was value. Even if Kamara was eclipsed by CMC he provided great value. Which was the point. 

I agree on the RB position being the easiest to find value.

I was just noting the production of Kamara and CMC one was obviously in a better offensive system when drafted. 

 

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I agree on the RB position being the easiest to find value.

I was just noting the production of Kamara and CMC one was obviously in a better offensive system when drafted. 

 

Yeah okay fair enough. 
Maybe the point is if you have a better system and players you can dumpster dive for a RB and if you don’t you have to shop top shelf. I dunno. 
 

I would put my assets into the best OL I could get and let them make UDFA like Rico look like stars. As opposed to putting CMC behind a makeshift OL. And right now I don’t even remember who was on the OL when we took him, just sayin. 

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