Bryce Young has now played one full seasons worth of games since returning from his benching in 2024

[kungfoodude]

36 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

In good company

https://x.com/PFSN365/status/1981060231657345058

The amount of QB's on that list that Huddlers wanted to attempt to obtain as a Bryce replacement is telling.

I sometimes wonder if the only place more inept than the Panthers at evaluation of QB talent is the Carolina Huddle.

[kungfoodude]

[mrcompletely11]

6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The amount of QB's on that list that Huddlers wanted to attempt to obtain as a Bryce replacement is telling.

I sometimes wonder if the only place more inept than the Panthers at evaluation of QB talent is the Carolina Huddle.

do you think the jags regret giving him that big contract after year 3?

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

do you think the jags regret giving him that big contract after year 3?

They absolutely do.

How could you not?

[The Lobo]

50 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

In good company

https://x.com/PFSN365/status/1981060231657345058

One comment on there said they couldn’t have won the cowboys game without Bryce, I guess Rico doesn’t exist? 

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

do you think the jags regret giving him that big contract after year 3?

Jags got handicapped because every coach was going to be forced and  tied to Trevor (who is average and plays the game a very specific way).   So while you can do worse than Trevor, every coach that was going to come in would be forced into his flavor of average. 

NFL success is largely about fit.  Players, scheme, and coaches all fitting together.   It's why bad to average players can suddenly look good in the right home/team.   You never want to handicap your team w/ a huge contract and force everyone's hand....for an average player. 

*and Bryce isn't in Trevor tier of QB.  He is in one ahead of Bryce. 

[Bear Hands]

At the end of the day, as fans, you want two things in rooting for an NFL team:

1-wins

2-A fun to watch product

It's year 3 so positions are hardened/even more difficult to sway for Bryce.  And the debate it tired.  And it's still not that much fun to watch.

Fans are in the sh*t or get off the pot mode, because honestly, it's a boring product.  He's not a scrambler, he doesn't have the cannon, we don't have burners...we don't really have any superstars. *Potential in McMillan.

Thing is, I think he's close to a year-4 lock due to Tepper and circumstances. 

Winning cures all so that's path A.  Path B, we end up between 8 to 6 wins but he still is in this middle-ish/debatable ground, we have a 4th go-around but with a different backup plan.  Path C, the wheels fall off, there is no year 4.

Path B seems likely so brace yourselves.  

 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

Jags got handicapped because every coach was going to be forced and  tied to Trevor (who is average and plays the game a very specific way).   So while you can do worse than Trevor, every coach that was going to come in would be forced into his flavor of average. 

NFL success is largely about fit.  Players, scheme, and coaches all fitting together.   It's why bad to average players can suddenly look good in the right home/team.   You never want to handicap your team w/ a huge contract and force everyone's hand....for an average player. 

*and Bryce isn't in Trevor tier of QB.  He is in one ahead of Bryce. 

The problem for Jags fans is that he isn't that far ahead of Bryce. That is not what you want for your "generational QB."

Trevor is currently on pace to be the biggest QB bust of the last 20 or so years, IMO. Not that he won't be in the league or anything but this was supposed to be a generational guy. He is barely league average.

No matter, though. If the path keeps being forged, Arch Manning will be saying "hold my beer" in the near future.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The problem for Jags fans is that he isn't that far ahead of Bryce. That is not what you want for your "generational QB."

Trevor is currently on pace to be the biggest QB bust of the last 20 or so years, IMO. Not that he won't be in the league or anything but this was supposed to be a generational guy. He is barely league average.

No matter, though. If the path keeps being forged, Arch Manning will be saying "hold my beer" in the near future.

I mean, Bryce Young is ahead of Trevor in that biggest QB bust in the last 20 years race you speak of.  

Trevor is exactly the same dude that played at Clemson.   

 

[ForJimmy]

11 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

At the end of the day, as fans, you want two things in rooting for an NFL team:

1-wins

2-A fun to watch product

It's year 3 so positions are hardened/even more difficult to sway for Bryce.  And the debate it tired.  And it's still not that much fun to watch.

Fans are in the sh*t or get off the pot mode, because honestly, it's a boring product.  He's not a scrambler, he doesn't have the cannon, we don't have burners...we don't really have any superstars. *Potential in McMillan.

Thing is, I think he's close to a year-4 lock due to Tepper and circumstances. 

Winning cures all so that's path A.  Path B, we end up between 8 to 6 wins but he still is in this middle-ish/debatable ground, we have a 4th go-around but with a different backup plan.  Path C, the wheels fall off, there is no year 4.

Path B seems likely so brace yourselves.  

 

Unless some drastic happens I think we keep Bryce his final year and probably pick up that 5th year option.  We sign a higher ceiling vet like Lance, Zack Wilson, Howell etc... Young will be the starter next year but have a little pressure with the better backup situation.  If the wheels fall off we switch it over to the backup and either try to trade Bryce or let him be our backup his final year.  This is the path I see.   The other path would be Bryce picking up his level of play and we just sign another old vet or keep Dalton as the backup.  It will be interesting to see how bad Dalton is if he gets some playing time these couple weeks.  If he looks horrible it will force us to get a better option next year regardless of Bryce's play.  

Edited 2 hours ago by ForJimmy

[CRA]

23 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Unless some drastic happens I think we keep Bryce his final year and probably pick up that 5th year option.  We sign a higher ceiling vet like Lance, Zack Wilson, Howell etc... Young will be the starter next year but have a little pressure with the better backup situation.  If the wheels fall off we switch it over to the backup and either try to trade Bryce or let him be our backup his final year.  This is the path I see.   The other path would be Bryce picking up his level of play and we just sign another old vet or keep Dalton as the backup.  It will be interesting to see how bad Dalton is if he gets some playing time these couple weeks.  If he looks horrible it will force us to get a better option next year regardless of Bryce's play.  

we are entering the the non-comically bad opponent section of our schedule.  Wins are going to be scarce going forward. 

I think the path forward, SHOULD be......you bring in legit QB competition and have a real QB battle next season.  And if that QB fits, Canales' scheme....Bryce will lose it. 

[kungfoodude]

23 minutes ago, CRA said:

I mean, Bryce Young is ahead of Trevor in that biggest QB bust in the last 20 years race you speak of.  

Trevor is exactly the same dude that played at Clemson.   

 

No, he isn't. Trevor was billed as generational. Like Luck and now Arch. 

Not living up to that billing is a different level of bust precisely because of that tag.

Bryce is at an Akili Smith, Heath Shuler, Joey Harrington level of bust at the moment. Just a guy that should have never been there in the first place.

Now, the trade price is an aggravating factor but even with that the "generational" tag trumps it. That's a tough one to not live up to. Luck came closest but injuries derailed him. Lawrence has literally just never looked like it at all. 

[kungfoodude]

28 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Unless some drastic happens I think we keep Bryce his final year and probably pick up that 5th year option.  We sign a higher ceiling vet like Lance, Zack Wilson, Howell etc... Young will be the starter next year but have a little pressure with the better backup situation.  If the wheels fall off we switch it over to the backup and either try to trade Bryce or let him be our backup his final year.  This is the path I see.   The other path would be Bryce picking up his level of play and we just sign another old vet or keep Dalton as the backup.  It will be interesting to see how bad Dalton is if he gets some playing time these couple weeks.  If he looks horrible it will force us to get a better option next year regardless of Bryce's play.  

I think Dalton, if he plays, looks slightly better than Bryce. So, if the wheels don't fall off Bryce(or Andy) the remainder of the season, I suspect we are looking at the exact same QB room in 2026.

I would be surprised if he either signed a younger guy or drafted a guy. Also, we should probably actually draft a guy. 

[ForJimmy]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

we are entering the the non-comically bad opponent section of our schedule.  Wins are going to be scarce going forward. 

I think the path forward, SHOULD be......you bring in legit QB competition and have a real QB battle next season.  And if that QB fits, Canales' scheme....Bryce will lose it. 

I think Willis, Howell, Lance, and Z Wilson are all young relatively cheap options to come in. I don’t know if they beat out Bryce early. I think it’s going to take him struggling and getting benched again, but that’s just my thought.