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6 minutes ago, frankw said:

The post you quoted mentioned him going down with minimal contact which has happened frequently throughout his 37 career games it just is what it is. I don't see anything about saying it's his fault his leg got stopped on. And it is unfortunate to see Bryce Young get hurt but things happen and given his size and lack of any real physicality it was always going to be an inevitability. It wasn't like we didn't know this when we drafted him.

So it was brought up in a thread about the Jets social media celebrating that specific play, and the post says “this is the biggest thing I hate about Bryce Young”, but it is in no way blaming him for going down on that particular play? That’s a lot of suspension of disbelief you’re asking. I suppose all the hair pulling in the game day thread about it as soon as the play happened was coincidence as well.

I’d be curious how much of your perception on this is confirmation bias. There’s plenty of plays he doesn’t go down with minimal contact. There’s plays I’m sure I’ve looked at as a slip on the turf that you’ve looked at as going down on minimal contact. Legitimately curious what the actual data is.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, honestly he has been significantly more durable than this Superman-esque QB in Anthony Richardson that so many here lusted for.

If anything, Bryce has dramatically outdone the qualms about his size and durability.

Now his QB play.....woof.

His style of play lends itself to not be injured too much. Then you watch someone like Baker or Dart and they are willing to run through a brick wall to score or get a first down. Now for obvious reasons Young shouldn't play that way but it will be hard to ever contend for a title with his safe style of play. 

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3 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

His style of play lends itself to not be injured too much. Then you watch someone like Baker or Dart and they are willing to run through a brick wall to score or get a first down. Now for obvious reasons Young shouldn't play that way but it will be hard to ever contend for a title with his safe style of play. 

Idk, I loved Cam, but would have loved him a lot more with a longer career. Tom Brady won plenty of titles without running through brick walls.

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2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah, honestly he has been significantly more durable than this Superman-esque QB in Anthony Richardson that so many here lusted for.

If anything, Bryce has dramatically outdone the qualms about his size and durability.

Now his QB play.....woof.

His durability was like the last negative I would look to in size related critique. Uh, evaluating him.
 

There have been plenty of small/short players at other positions that were tough as hell. RB, WR, some DBs and returners. 
And how tall was Sam Mills? 
His height, we know restricts his vision. His size inhibits ball security. Big time. I mean that could be attributed more to his lack of strength but it comes under size I suppose. 
I get that throwers don’t want that upper body too bulked and tightened up but he should have been building his base it doesn’t appear that he has done much. 

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1 minute ago, jfra78 said:

The post may be classless but the play wasn't.  Jets have nothing else to hype and probably didn't make the connection to the injury before posting 

I can buy that. They have bigger issues than Bryce’s sprained ankle to draw their attention. 

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5 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Idk, I loved Cam, but would have loved him a lot more with a longer career. Tom Brady won plenty of titles without running through brick walls.

Cam had to play that way to win. We could of just lost games to keep him healthy I guess.

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4 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

So it was brought up in a thread about the Jets social media celebrating that specific play, and the post says “this is the biggest thing I hate about Bryce Young”, but it is in no way blaming him for going down on that particular play? That’s a lot of suspension of disbelief you’re asking. I suppose all the hair pulling in the game day thread about it as soon as the play happened was coincidence as well.

I’d be curious how much of your perception on this is confirmation bias. There’s plenty of plays he doesn’t go down with minimal contact. There’s plays I’m sure I’ve looked at as a slip on the turf that you’ve looked at as going down on minimal contact. Legitimately curious what the actual data is.

You'll have to have a conversation with that poster to get more on their thoughts. But these kinds of uncomfortable discussions have existed with every single QB who has started games for this team for an extended period of time. We cannot act as if Bryce Young is the only one who has faced tough questions and it's completely unfair and doing so is only going to have the complete opposite effect of what you seek because he is not a mid round pick or Mr. Irrelevant.

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1 minute ago, t96 said:

lol I thought this thread was gonna be about Russell Wilson (Mr. Politician who only ever says nice things about everyone) trashing Sean Payton for being the classless piece of poo that he is

I thought the same and surprised it hasn't been brought up

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9 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Idk, I loved Cam, but

Can't help but notice more and more of these very loudly outspoken Bryce Young defenders beginning a sentence about our only MVP in franchise history this way.

Telling.

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