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interesting podcast. Did my best to summarize 


1  none understand why rico isnt getting 100% of snaps

2  dalton  is seasoned veteran  and for this game, could he more of a challenge for bills than young   Better arm and   Familiar with  mcdermott defense.  Has seen everything    Impressed with Tet  and Panthers do not have bad receivers and impressed by size 

3  not impressed with bills passed game and Allen is being held back because of it. bills do not seem to have a consistent vertical  passing game  as in past.   No intermediate More Short passes for YAC and that hurts Allen    Could be to control pace and tempo of the game given the bills defensive weaknesses    Need intermediate to stretch zone defenses 

4 bills have several returning from DL from suspension this game on defense that could help 

5  atlanta beat bills offense by  blitzing  and played ton of man coverage.   No structured intermediate passing game for bills   Bills had no answer for atlanta defense either blitzes and man to man coverage    Rushed 5 or more on over 30% if Allen’s drop backs 

6  compliments the panthers defense   Up and coming but has issues. Last in pressure on qb   Last in DVOA and coverage of TEs 

 

 

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Why is this educated outside observer saying a lot of the same things many Huddlers get called a hater from the stans for voicing? I'm just confused. Why is Greg Cosell such an obvious Bryce hater? I've been assured that anyone voicing these types of takes are nothing but blind Bryce haters who only want to see him fail.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Why is this educated outside observer saying a lot of the same things many Huddlers get called a hater from the stans for voicing? I'm just confused. Why is Greg Cosell such an obvious Bryce hater? I've been assured that anyone voicing these types of takes are nothing but blind Bryce haters who only want to see him fail.

Bryce clapped Penix cheeks, Penix clapped Allen's cheeks.

Dalton got clapped by practice squad players and thin air in his most recent outings.

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1 minute ago, Super Grateful said:

Bryce clapped Penix cheeks, Penix clapped Allen's cheeks.

Dalton got clapped by practice squad players and thin air in his most recent outings.

It's a football game, not a boxing match. Trust and believe no cheeks were clapped by 121 yards and 0 TDs. Our defense dominated Penix and the Falcons offense. Our offense had 224 total yards.

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15 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's a football game, not a boxing match. Trust and believe no cheeks were clapped by 121 yards and 0 TDs. Our defense dominated Penix and the Falcons offense. Our offense had 224 total yards.

It’s funny when people choose to perceive the game as an individual sport vs a team sport. It seems like some people flip between perspectives when something doesn’t fit their narrative about a player or team.

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14 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's a football game, not a boxing match. Trust and believe no cheeks were clapped by 121 yards and 0 TDs. Our defense dominated Penix and the Falcons offense. Our offense had 224 total yards.

That was an impressive level of QB implosion that happens once, maybe twice every couple of seasons. There's bad luck, quicksand, or a swan dive into the vat of whatever fugduggery he found that morning. 

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Just now, Super Grateful said:

It’s funny when people choose to perceive the game as an individual sport vs a team sport. It seems like some people flip between perspectives when something doesn’t fit their narrative about a player or team.

It's almost like it depends on the quality of the individual performance. Claiming a QB "won" a game when he threw for 121 yards and 0 TDs while the D pitched a shutout and produced more points than he did is bizarre.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's almost like it depends on the quality of the individual performance. Claiming a QB "won" a game when he threw for 121 yards and 0 TDs while the D pitched a shutout and produced more points than he did is bizarre.

What about his 300 yard 3 TD game vs cardinals we lost?

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11 minutes ago, Super Grateful said:

What about his 300 yard 3 TD game vs cardinals we lost?

The one where he piled up stats against soft zone D while we were trailing big from the hole he dug us with his turnovers and then he immediately folded like a cheap suit when we recovered an onside kick and the refs threw multiple flags to carry us down the field and we actually shockingly had a chance? Just making sure we're talking about the same game.

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What about his 300 yard 3 TD game vs cardinals we lost?

Yeah he did great and the team lost that one for him. Ungrateful bastards. 
 

And who is that fool saying washed Dalton has a better arm? The internet, now anybody with a web cam thinks they can be an expert. 

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