How dumb is Canales?

[Pantherxtreme]

4 minutes ago, Navy_football said:

Hard to blame Canales for games like this. This team is really young. Particularly at the skill positions. When the vets (oline and dline) don't show up, this is what happens. Gonna take lumps until guys get more games under their belts. 

With that being said, starting Chuba is not the right move. Though Chuba didn't play bad today, Dowdle has earned more carries.

In FA, they need to bring in faster players on offense. I swear we don't have any friggin speed on the field at WR. Slow at the snap. Slow out of breaks. Only pressing the safeties if the oline can hold up for 5+ seconds. That is the biggest issue with this offense. Defense needs playmakers at standup LB and they'll be a more consistent unit. 

2.8 yards a carry is not terrible?

[WUnderhill]

I missed most of this game, but I did tune in a little at the end of the 3rd quarter and noticed we were still taking our time running the ball and not in a hurry up offense down by 37 points. Did the coaching staff just give up?

[MHS831]

51 minutes ago, TimeTravelerTep said:

There is zero chance the coaches and certain players were told to throw this game. I know its the viral thing in the media right now, but if you were trying to throw a game...this is exactly what you do. You start the worse players, and if the backups actually make a play, you immediately take them out. You have your quarterback make a drive, and if they get in the red zone tou have your quarterback walk over and toss the ball to the defense. You also have your veteran quarterback make stupid decisions that a rookie on his 2nd game would be never make. Over and over and over. And then you have the refs toss flags for absolutely nothingon 3rd down if the opponent doesn't convert, twice on crucial 3rd downs they did not convert. 

I mean how else would throwing a game look? Oh, and then you hand your announcers a script to push whatever you are tryi g to push. Ex-NFL players saying that the main problem was that the defense just couldn't stop the "amazing" Buffalo team. They said Buffalo is just in another tier than the Panthers because they are just freaking amazing. What??? They were definitely beatable if the Panthers didn't throw the game. Just wait until you have everyone breaking down each play. It's going to look bad, really bad. And these announcers, ex-Panthers players, saying things that made absolutely no sense after the game. That was the weirdest part to me. In my opinion the defense was doing pretty freaking good. I guess they should have caused Andy for the almost pick 6, and they suck for not stuffing them 4 times in a row on the 1/2 yard line. I don't care what you say, something wasnt right today. I know bad football, I'm a Panthers fan, this one didn't look right. Maybe this was a humiliation ritual for Tepper. The Panthers purposely threw this game, it couldnt have been more obvious.

I agree with you--but I was not implying that he threw the game--he is bad enough to play and not have to compromise his integrity.

[MHS831]

My concerns?  XL still doesn't understand the concept of a sideline and he has yet to break out in year 3...I think it was (according to the announcer) Corbett at center who hit Chuba in the arm with the snap--I was away, but not sure why he was at C.  

Our LB play was terrible.  Buffalo messed with them all day--they seemed confused.  Not sure what our DL was doing.  And safeties missed a ton of tackles that led to big plays.  

I did not watch that closely, but it seems Coker should be the #2.  

[PleaseCutStewart]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

My concerns?  XL still doesn't understand the concept of a sideline and he has yet to break out in year 3...I think it was (according to the announcer) Corbett at center who hit Chuba in the arm with the snap--I was away, but not sure why he was at C.  

Our LB play was terrible.  Buffalo messed with them all day--they seemed confused.  Not sure what our DL was doing.  And safeties missed a ton of tackles that led to big plays.  

I did not watch that closely, but it seems Coker should be the #2.  

While that snap wasn't good, I really don't understand why Chuba is lined up where he is. The snap was a little off center to the right, but it wasn't egregiously bad.

With the position that Chuba lined up in, I am kind of curious if it was actually meant to be a direct snap to him.

 

And while the play from our linebackers wasn't good, our edge personnel did a spectacularly terrible job at playing contain. How they didn't learn after the 15th toss play that went for another 10+ yards is mind boggling....

Unfortunately it was the worst possible time to play the bills. They were off a bye week, had a lost 2 in a row, and we were stuck having to play a geriatric QB because Bryce got hurt

Edited 2 hours ago by PleaseCutStewart

[MHS831]

Just now, PleaseCutStewart said:

While that snap wasn't good, I really don't understand why Chuba is lined up where he is. The snap was a little off center to the right, but it wasn't egregiously bad.

With the position that Chuba lined up in, I am kind of curious if it was actually meant to be a direct snap to him

I was not engaged at that time, and I looked up and saw the close up.  He did seem out of place, and I wondered why he did not get out of the way--

Great point--was it a direct snap and Chuba missed the call...?

[PleaseCutStewart]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

I was not engaged at that time, and I looked up and saw the close up.  He did seem out of place, and I wondered why he did not get out of the way--

Great point--was it a direct snap and Chuba missed the call...?

Yeah, I was pretty checked out also and just talking to fellow Panthers fans at our game watch also. But it seemed like Chuba's left shoulder was pretty much in front of Dalton's right hand. It was a very weird alignment and don't know what the hell was going on with that play

[Butterflyj30]

I think Canales problem is he is just too nice of a person!! Sometimes to win you can't be too nice

[Gapanthersfan]

22 minutes ago, Butterflyj30 said:

I think Canales problem is he is just too nice of a person!! Sometimes to win you can't be too nice

His players have no respect for him, and frankly, trotting out Chuba over Dowdle shows that he has 0 respect for them as well. If it is obvious that he’s putting a player above the good of the team, then he doesn’t deserve their full effort. He’s certainly not giving his. 

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

Hard to blame Canales for games like this.

When the team is beat in every part of the game, the head coach is actually quite easy to blame

[Butterflyj30]

3 minutes ago, Gapanthersfan said:

His players have no respect for him, and frankly, trotting out Chuba over Dowdle shows that he has 0 respect for them as well. If it is obvious that he’s putting a player above the good of the team, then he doesn’t deserve their full effort. He’s certainly not giving his. 

I agree he lost this team today hopefully he can get them back

[SmokinwithWilly]

Just now, Butterflyj30 said:

I agree he lost this team today hopefully he can get them back

I dont want him to get them back. He's shown nothing that proves hes worthy of being a HC. 

[Gapanthersfan]

5 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

I dont want him to get them back. He's shown nothing that proves hes worthy of being a HC. 

Could you imagine playing your way in to a season/career ending injury for a coach who obviously favored a player over the team? 

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Could you imagine playing your way in to a season/career ending injury for a coach who obviously favored a player over the team? 

He's also playing for a contract and getting benched following close to 500 yards of offense in 2 games has to feel personal. I doubt he has any respect for DC at this point.