Is Canales digging his own grave?

[strato]

22 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

there’s nothing to answer. You’re just wish casting

A low experience coordinator that no one else interviewed was offered a job he’s not qualified for that no one else wanted and he took it because you don’t turn down that kind of money and has predictably been a total disaster. 

You don’t need to make up circumstances around this. It’s obvious. he was a bad decision when he was hired and he’s a bad coach now. The circumstances of the team he agreed to coach don’t mitigate that reality. 

how many times is a head coach allowed to get blown out by four touchdowns before you cut bait on him? What’s your number?

Nah, that’s you incoherently venting. I get that.
The question was about firing the guy if he didn’t fix an unfixable player. 
The question of what the agreement was, has to be asked. Again, who with any sense would agree to fix Bryce Young if the price for failure was you are fired along with Young? I guess a guy that could see a payday would do that. Which you didn’t offer as a rebuttal btw.

Taking the job on,y makes sense in three circumstances. 

You actually do think you can fix him. My least likely of the three but possible. 

You say if anyone can fix him I can, but it is a big job. You get assurances that if he is unfixable you get a chance with your guy.

Money grab.
 

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[electro's horse]

4 minutes ago, strato said:

Money grab.
 

Oh so you do understand 

the evangelical grifter (charging 10k for appearances at faith conferences when he was  a passing game coordinator for the Seahawks) and his evangelical grifter wife (“Christian motivational speaker”) have grifted David Tepper

Great job, gum shoe. 

[Shotgun]

I thought he had really turned a corner after the Dallas game. Then he went full dipsh*t with the Rico/Chuba thing. I think we are stuck with Canales and Morgan unfortunately, there are better guys out there but not ones willing to work for Tepper.  

[Smitty will punch you]

Dude is over his head. He’s a OC at max. This a clear sign, he can’t make tough or easy decisions. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Shotgun said:

I thought he had really turned a corner after the Dallas game. Then he went full dipsh*t with the Rico/Chuba thing. I think we are stuck with Canales and Morgan unfortunately, there are better guys out there but not ones willing to work for Tepper.  

All Tepper has to do is remove himself from the decision making process and he could get anyone to work for him. 

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I think we got blown off the map because of Canales. I think that game could have been a lot more competitive.

Canales didn't turn the ball over 4 times and get sacked 7 times, my dude.

If you want to criticise Morgan and Canales, criticise them for not being brave enough to stand up to Tepper about the QB room. I think, on the whole, they've done the rest of their jobs pretty well.

[Smitty will punch you]

1 minute ago, Shotgun said:

I thought he had really turned a corner after the Dallas game. Then he went full dipsh*t with the Rico/Chuba thing. I think we are stuck with Canales and Morgan unfortunately, there are better guys out there but not ones willing to work for Tepper.  

Nah Morgan has to see this…damn watches the tape too. 

[strato]

12 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Oh so you do understand 

the evangelical grifter (charging 10k for appearances at faith conferences when he was  a passing game coordinator for the Seahawks) and his evangelical grifter wife (“Christian motivational speaker”) have grifted David Tepper

Great job, gum shoe. 

You what, fug off. You could have said that but want to be shitty. 

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

Asking a “leadership council” if he can bench Chuba is the most chickenshit thing that’s happened to the panthers franchise since cam didn’t dive on the ball. 

 

Getting buy in from the players is a bad thing now?

I'm going to assume he learned that from National Champion and Super Bowl winner, Pete Carroll.

[strato]

3 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Canales didn't turn the ball over 4 times and get sacked 7 times, my dude.

If you want to criticise Morgan and Canales, criticise them for not being brave enough to stand up to Tepper about the QB room. I think, on the whole, they've done the rest of their jobs pretty well.

I have criticized them for that. All the good that it does. 

[CRA]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Canales didn't turn the ball over 4 times and get sacked 7 times, my dude.

If you want to criticise Morgan and Canales, criticise them for not being brave enough to stand up to Tepper about the QB room. I think, on the whole, they've done the rest of their jobs pretty well.

I think Tepper actually does listen to folks he hires.  I think he hires bad people.  Nothing about David Tepper says he digs on mistakes and refuses to acknowledge them.  At this point, I think the Bryce issue falls more on Dan Morgan than anyone.   It was his job to fix the QB room for this season.  

 

[strato]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

Getting buy in from the players is a bad thing now?

I'm going to assume he learned that from National Champion and Super Bowl winner, Pete Carroll.

Well this specifically is something that is being characterized a certain way by someone grinding an axe. 

[OldhamA]

2 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Tepper actually does listen to folks he hires.  I think he hires bad people.  Nothing about David Tepper says he digs on mistakes and refuses to acknowledge them.  At this point, I think the Bryce issue falls more on Dan Morgan than anyone.   It was his job to fix the QB room for this season.  

 

Again, I simply can't see how that's the case when you look around the rest of the building.

Every other position group has improved (some out of sight) yet he's got a blind spot to the failings of Young and Dalton?

I can't believe that.

[rebelrouser]

5 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

If you want to criticise Morgan and Canales, criticise them for

1. Trading down to draft Jonathan Brooks in the second;

2. giving washed up Dalton an extension w/ 6M guaranteed;

3. giving Chuba Hubbard a contract extension with 14M guaranteed after you spent so much draft capital at the position:  

4. trading into the first round to draft XL when McConkey was available.