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[ok2h8pep]

1 minute ago, csx said:

Who wouldnt? The entire combine prep is exactly that for every single participant.

Sorry, I just don't accept that as true.  Putting your best foot forward is way different than trying to cheat.

[csx]

Its really strange anyone would think that the scouts and gms and coaches are fooled by baggy shirts and weight gain while the only people who notice are fans watching on tvs and computer screens.

[rebelrouser]

2 minutes ago, csx said:

Its really strange anyone would think that the scouts and gms and coaches are fooled by baggy shirts and weight gain

You forgot the platform shoes.  LOL.  

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 minutes ago, csx said:

Its really strange anyone would think that the scouts and gms and coaches are fooled by baggy shirts and weight gain while the only people who notice are fans watching on tvs and computer screens.

Then if they aren't fooled, why do it? Because some of them undoubtedly could be. And ultimately, the person(s) making the decision was. He fooled Dave Tepper. 

[csx]

Drafting him was a mistake but blaming him is strange.

[Jon Snow]

28 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Not completely. Bryce heavily participated in the draft process. From packing on extra weight and hiding it under baggy clothes, to repeated practicing for the S2 test that miraculously is hyped beyond all recognition then never heard about again, while Stroud was trashed as an imbecile, and when his physical limitations were being called into question, he chose not to participate in combine drills. 

You could say it's not his fault where he was drafted, but I would disagree. I would say he certainly participated in getting himself drafted 1st overall and a larger guaranteed payday. 

You seriously think a 5'9" 185 lb kid can fool everyone into think he was 6'1" 215lbs and had Tom Brady's football experience just standing on the sidelines at the combine? Tell me you do not believe that? Everyone in each organization met with him in person. He cannot hide anything. 

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, The Lobo said:

You don’t draft game managers number one overall. 

If you look at the list of elite Qb's playing today, not a one of them was drafted number one.  In fact, only one (stafford) has been to a SB.

[SmokinwithWilly]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

You seriously think a 5'9" 185 lb kid can fool everyone into think he was 6'1" 215lbs and had Tom Brady's football experience just standing on the sidelines at the combine? Tell me you do not believe that? Everyone in each organization met with him in person. He cannot hide anything. 

Bryce measured in at 5'10.25" and 204 lbs at the combine. So the answer is yes. He fooled people. 

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Bryce measured in at 5'10.25" and 204 lbs at the combine. So the answer is yes. He fooled people. 

Maybe you. The Panthers thought knew what they were getting because they bought the hype too. 

[TarHeel69]

 Carolina just beat Green Bay in Green Bay. Past that, yall being a bunch of bitches.  LOL!

[Sup]

18 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You seriously think a 5'9" 185 lb kid can fool everyone into think he was 6'1" 215lbs and had Tom Brady's football experience just standing on the sidelines at the combine? Tell me you do not believe that? Everyone in each organization met with him in person. He cannot hide anything. 

Then why did he do it? 

[strato]

42 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

I think he is saying that Bryce materially misrepresented himself during the draft process so, in fact, he is at least partly to blame for be over drafted.

IOW.  Bryce gamed the system like a con man and should be held accountable for it.

  He did. But the team knew it, or should have. I mean how stupid are you? 
Players do this poo all the time at the combine.  Or it has been done, and what he did was obvious to all of us.  So it isn’t all on him. 
At the same time I don’t like people that try to trick me. I would have looked at it as a big negative. 

[strato]

22 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

You seriously think a 5'9" 185 lb kid can fool everyone into think he was 6'1" 215lbs and had Tom Brady's football experience just standing on the sidelines at the combine? Tell me you do not believe that? Everyone in each organization met with him in person. He cannot hide anything. 

You would think. The whole thing, not just the combine, totally baffled me.  

Edited 6 hours ago by strato

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, strato said:

  He did. But the team knew it, or should have. I mean how stupid are you? 
Players do this poo all the time at the combine.  Or it has been done, and what he did was obvious to all of us.  So it isn’t all on him. 
At the same time I don’t like people that try to trick me. I would have looked at it as a big negative. 

He had personal visits with at least 3 teams before the draft. He couldn't hide his size up close and personal. This is beyond conspiracy level thinking. They were at his pro day. He couldn't hide his weak arm and under thrown passes. It was all there in front of you. If you were duped you weren't paying attention.