This Bryce Guy (General BY Discussion)

[CPF4LIFE]

11 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Love an entire offense designed around fooling a defense on 4th and short in the 4th quarter 

Sounds like good scheming to me to get the most out of a limited qb. 

[strato]

4 hours ago, DeadpoolPanther said:

My bad I didn’t mean the last Rams game particularly, just in general. Going into the 4th quarter with like 97 yards passing and maybe a td usually isn’t a recipe for success in the playoffs. He’s going to have to play good the whole game.

I wish this site nested the thread of posts and replies. I had to go back and find what you said that I responded to.
 

I didn’t mean to belittle your statement or really argue about it, just kind of stating my general recall of how that game went.  
 

It would be nice if we had a QB that didn’t put us to sleep in the first half. Or dig a deep hole the team has to climb out of. Yeah. 
 

Anything can happen and I can visualize us jumping out with some completions and individual effort getting the YAC, if I squint real hard.
But Canales will likely stick to the strategy of minimize the damage eat the clock and keep it close so that maybe we can steal another one at the end.  97 yards in 3 quarters again wouldn’t surprise me.  

[Navy_football]

10 minutes ago, strato said:

I wish this site nested the thread of posts and replies. I had to go back and find what you said that I responded to.
 

I didn’t mean to belittle your statement or really argue about it, just kind of stating my general recall of how that game went.  
 

It would be nice if we had a QB that didn’t put us to sleep in the first half. Or dig a deep hole the team has to climb out of. Yeah. 
 

Anything can happen and I can visualize us jumping out with some completions and individual effort getting the YAC, if I squint real hard.
But Canales will likely stick to the strategy of minimize the damage eat the clock and keep it close so that maybe we can steal another one at the end.  97 yards in 3 quarters again wouldn’t surprise me.  

I really disagree that Canales calls a conservative game early. I used to think the same thing but watched a couple of games a little closer and came to the conclusion that Bryce PLAYS conservative early. Maybe he needs to get into a rhythm or something. I don't know. If he does, then give him some easy completions - slants and screens. If it's just an MO thing, then take away anything short and make him launch it early. 

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 hours ago, strato said:

Yeah agreed. I am not expecting a repeat of that game. And am not optimistic. Only hopeful. Foolishly, probably. 

Crowd noise will be a determining factor. False starts and keeping Stafford out of rhythm will be crucial. 

[ok2h8pep]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

If he does, then give him some easy completions - slants and screens.

Screens, yes.  Slants, no - they happen in the middle of the field where Bryce dare not go.

[Navy_football]

20 minutes ago, ok2h8pep said:

Screens, yes.  Slants, no - they happen in the middle of the field where Bryce dare not go.

Quick slants only then, with the outside receiver. Though I disagree that he can't (or doesn't like to) throw to the middle of the field.

[CRA]

wish there was a Falcon, Buc or Saints player that was saying something that sounded like this about our QB....

'Shough is the real deal. Left Josh Allen's division, left from Josh Allen being in the division, and came to this [expletive] with Shough in it.'" 

Panthers Pro Bowl G - Robert Hunt

[Jackie Lee]

27 minutes ago, CRA said:

wish there was a Falcon, Buc or Saints player that was saying something that sounded like this about our QB....

'Shough is the real deal. Left Josh Allen's division, left from Josh Allen being in the division, and came to this [expletive] with Shough in it.'" 

Panthers Pro Bowl G - Robert Hunt

 

[strato]

29 minutes ago, CRA said:

wish there was a Falcon, Buc or Saints player that was saying something that sounded like this about our QB....

'Shough is the real deal. Left Josh Allen's division, left from Josh Allen being in the division, and came to this [expletive] with Shough in it.'" 

Panthers Pro Bowl G - Robert Hunt

Wow. Yeah they have lapped us with a 2nd round pick in half a season. 
 

[strato]

2 hours ago, Navy_football said:

I really disagree that Canales calls a conservative game early. I used to think the same thing but watched a couple of games a little closer and came to the conclusion that Bryce PLAYS conservative early. Maybe he needs to get into a rhythm or something. I don't know. If he does, then give him some easy completions - slants and screens. If it's just an MO thing, then take away anything short and make him launch it early. 

Seems to me that when teams can stop our run game and dare us to pass, if they can do that, Canales resists taking the bait. As long as the game is close. He will take three and outs and punt, before he will take an interception. 

[CRA]

40 minutes ago, strato said:

Seems to me that when teams can stop our run game and dare us to pass, if they can do that, Canales resists taking the bait. As long as the game is close. He will take three and outs and punt, before he will take an interception. 

if Canales is going to take an INT and get risky.....it's going to be essentially throwing into the endzone/redzone.  It really feels like lives to mitigate the Bryce Young holes where folks have gotten up on us.  Bryce seems pretty clamped down outside of that area in his throws. 

[electro's horse]

2 hours ago, Navy_football said:

Quick slants only then, with the outside receiver. Though I disagree that he can't (or doesn't like to) throw to the middle of the field.

Thats more an out or a zero route (they called it a smoke route when Clausen was throwing them to smith) and that isnt something he should be throwing either. That only works if the db is playing off and the qb has the arm to get it in there  

they only do that with Bryce when they have trips right and a number advantage. If he just turned and threw you’d have a repeat of peppers housing Pickles when he was with Chicago. 

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, strato said:

Seems to me that when teams can stop our run game and dare us to pass, if they can do that, Canales resists taking the bait. As long as the game is close. He will take three and outs and punt, before he will take an interception. 

He won’t “take the bait” unless they’re about 30 yards from the end zone and the safeties are single high. Thats the max distance Bryce can accurately put a ball, and the boundaries of the end zone protect him from a bad pass. It’s also easier to throw a ball as hard as you can vs in the medium range. You can overhand a basketball as far as you can to an area more consistently than you can hit free throws, for example.

and yeah they absolutely cannot survive turnovers.

[Navy_football]

2 hours ago, strato said:

Seems to me that when teams can stop our run game and dare us to pass, if they can do that, Canales resists taking the bait. As long as the game is close. He will take three and outs and punt, before he will take an interception. 

Yeah Strato... that's just not true. It may appear that way. But guys are running routes to the sticks on 3rd and manageable. Canales also will abandon the run if it's not working, like in Seattle. He probably should have mixed up the downs he called run plays. Teams tend to stack the box on 1st down agaist Carolina more than other downs. I think that's more understanding playcalling tendencies than anything else.