Canales is telling us, but we aren’t listening

[Waldo]

1 hour ago, Lurk21 said:

I'm the same way but I think the heat has finally  showed some cracks in typical Coach speak. Job security  is starting to creep into the picture and the next step in these scenarios  is generally   I NEED MY QB. 

Maybe but I see it as just frustration. If they only had 2 or 3 wins I would agree with you but my guess is these guys thought they were close before the Saints game. I'll give it a few more weeks like that and see how he is holding up. Tepper probably is the most disappointed which we both know rolls down onto the staff in the worst way.

[Waldo]

5 minutes ago, toldozer said:

What did you want them to do? Their starting QB is so fuging fragile that any competition would have completely crushed him. They needed to give him this year to prove it. Obviously hindsight proves a poor decision but I understand Morgan's decision. Sure Canales can give input and he might have but ultimately like I said it isn't his call 

Or sign a washed Dalton who they watched for 2 years have 1 blah game before coming g apart. It's not hard, go find a playable backup. It's the NFL and not a pickup game of ball. What's hard to understand about that. 

They also had the preseason where they saw Dalton was completely washed and dumped Plumber for Hooker. 

It was a crap decision  and now they have to eat it. Hindsight has nothing to do with it. They gave a washed QB a 2 year contract.

[LinvilleGorge]

6 minutes ago, Waldo said:

They also had the preseason where they saw Dalton was completely washed and dumped Plumber for Hooker. 

I honestly didn't completely hate re-signing Dalton at the time but preseason was a massive red flag. The response should've been "oh poo, we desperately need a backup QB". He looked BAD.

[OneBadCat]

I thought the same thing. He knows Bryce is holding the offense back.

[Candler Cat]

Just now, OneBadCat said:

I thought the same thing. He knows Bryce is holding the offense back.

he's not drinking the Kool-Ade, but he's been compelled to serve it up

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I honestly didn't completely hate re-signing Dalton at the time but preseason was a massive red flag. The response should've been "oh poo, we desperately need a backup QB". He looked BAD.

I was very vocal about it before they resigned him. By the preseason it was too late and now it's just excuses.

He was neither healthy or very good the last 2 years. 1 fun game of simi functional play and then a nose dive into looking really old. I just don't get the mystery here.

[toldozer]

28 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Or sign a washed Dalton who they watched for 2 years have 1 blah game before coming g apart. It's not hard, go find a playable backup. It's the NFL and not a pickup game of ball. What's hard to understand about that. 

They also had the preseason where they saw Dalton was completely washed and dumped Plumber for Hooker. 

It was a crap decision  and now they have to eat it. Hindsight has nothing to do with it. They gave a washed QB a 2 year contract.

Again they sign a playable back up and Bryce would have been done. They are working with a pussy as qb1 and they tried to make it work. 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Coach speak is one thing but the amount of absolute nonsense he said in those interviews makes my head hurt.

It's not corporate buzzwordy, sleight of hand stuff.....it's just barely coherent babbling.

no doubt.  I have zero faith in Bryce Young.  But if the Panthers employed me tomorrow and a reporter point blank asked me if I believed in player Bryce Young being able to do doing Y.....I would at least lie and say yes and then say a bunch of gobbly goo about it's not just about him.   

I thought Dave choosing not to endorse his belief on Bryce when asked straight up there was either he spits SO MUCH bologna he forgot the technical right bologna and isn't even really listening to any questions....or water is just so wet he can't directly lie when it is that narrowed down. 

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Again they sign a playable back up and Bryce would have been done. They are working with a pussy as qb1 and they tried to make it work. 

That would also make them part of the problem. Your almost there

[Sup]

It's more obvious than ever that we aren't picking up the fifth year and that Bryce probably has no more than seven more games in a Panthers uniform.

[Candler Cat]

1 minute ago, Sup said:

It's more obvious than ever that we aren't picking up the fifth year and that Bryce probably has no more than seven more games in a Panthers uniform.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

I was very vocal about it before they resigned him. By the preseason it was too late and now it's just excuses.

He was neither healthy or very good the last 2 years. 1 fun game of simi functional play and then a nose dive into looking really old. I just don't get the mystery here.

We could've sent a 5th and 7th to Seattle in exchange for Howell and a 6th after seeing Dalton look completely washed for two preseason games but we sat on our hands. Not saying Howell would be our answer but 99/100 Panthers fans would be foaming at the mouth to see him start over Bryce right now if we'd made that move.

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We could've sent a 5th and 7th to Seattle in exchange for Howell and a 6th after seeing Dalton look completely washed for two preseason games but we sat on our hands. Not saying Howell would be our answer but 99/100 Panthers fans would be foaming at the mouth to see him start over Bryce right now if we'd made that move.

There are fans still hoping to see Dalton lol so hell yes we would be doing exactly that. 

It's crazy and I just don't see anyone that doesn't deserve blame for this situation they find themselves in now. 

[Proudiddy]

11 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The play calling and now the words have been strongly suggesting that Canales is trying to navigate his way through a lack of a QB.

Yeah, it reads as a coach being forced to play a QB who can’t do the things he wants him to do, so it’s almost like a game of chicken with ownership.