Week 11: Other NFL Games

[LinvilleGorge]

5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Fields has played in the NFL for 4.5 years now. 

He only has one of his 4.5 seasons that would eclipse Bryce Young's lowest season passing yards per game average. His career average in 58 games is 153.8. 

The Fields guys have always wanted to see an even more unwatchable version of Bryce Young. One with literally every physical advantage that could possibly exist for a QB.

Yeah, Fields would be even more frustrating than Bryce. Bryce sucks but you watch Bryce and realize that he just doesn't have the tools so you can't really even blame him. It was just a complete talent evaluation miss. But with Fields you clearly see all of the tools and yet he still just flat out sucks. That would be infuriating to watch.

[mav1234]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, Fields would be even more frustrating than Bryce. Bryce sucks but you watch Bryce and realize that he just doesn't have the tools so you can't really even blame him. It was just a complete talent evaluation miss. But with Fields you clearly see all of the tools and yet he still just flat out sucks. That would be infuriating to watch.

I don't know - perhaps it's because I've never needed to root for his team's, but I find him more entertaining as at least he can threaten every level of the field.

[strato]

1 minute ago, mav1234 said:

I don't know - perhaps it's because I've never needed to root for his team's, but I find him more entertaining as at least he can threaten every level of the field.

I am sorry but when I see Bryce’s scrawny little ass out there next to real NFL players I can’t take him seriously as ‘my’ QB. His helmet seems oversized, he just looks like a teenager to me. 
I know that is horrible because it takes courage for him to be out there and try to hang with the big boys but I can’t help how I feel about it.
The optics are terrible, they look like defeat and he isn’t doing anything to change the perception. I need to join sizists anonymous. 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, mav1234 said:

I do think with Fields you must include his rushing, where he has averaged 800 yards per season over 17 games. So he'd be at 3400 yards total in a season. Bryce in comparison is at 2900 yards passing plus 250 yards rushing so just a bit under Fields. Still not even impressive numbers for either of them.

I personally found Fields more fun to watch l but I wouldn't choose either of them anymore.

And I am sure that we have a few old triple option fans here but that's not the NFL nor does it work, as he has proved at every single stop in the NFL.

He is a poor man's The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[mav1234]

1 hour ago, strato said:

I am sorry but when I see Bryce’s scrawny little ass out there next to real NFL players I can’t take him seriously as ‘my’ QB. His helmet seems oversized, he just looks like a teenager to me. 
I know that is horrible because it takes courage for him to be out there and try to hang with the big boys but I can’t help how I feel about it.
The optics are terrible, they look like defeat and he isn’t doing anything to change the perception. I need to join sizists anonymous. 

I get that. Winning cures all, and shitty play is hard to watch.  What I find difficult is he never feels like a threat - anything he does down field feels astonishing. When I watch Fields I find him frustrating because of how ineffective he can be but there are moments I just know he can break out a huge run or deliver an on target bomb 30 yards down field.

[mav1234]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

And I am sure that we have a few old triple option fans here but that's not the NFL nor does it work, as he has proved at every single stop in the NFL.

He is a poor man's The Golden Calf of Bristol.

Oh I don't want him here.

I'd just rather watch his brand of football than Bryce's.

I'd rather watch a competent QB over either.

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, Fields would be even more frustrating than Bryce. Bryce sucks but you watch Bryce and realize that he just doesn't have the tools so you can't really even blame him. It was just a complete talent evaluation miss. But with Fields you clearly see all of the tools and yet he still just flat out sucks. That would be infuriating to watch.

This is exactly what I mean. There is no excuse for him to be this insanely bad. 

That isn't a better scenario.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Oh I don't want him here.

I'd just rather watch his brand of football than Bryce's.

I'd rather watch a competent QB over either.

I without question, without equivocation, vehemently disagree.

I don't need to see an infinitely more talented player perform substantially worse than Bryce. 

That's a goddamn nightmare.

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

This is exactly what I mean. There is no excuse for him to be this insanely bad. 

That isn't a better scenario.

Yeah, having turnover issues while still putting up numbers is one thing but to have all that talent and still be absolutely stuck in the mud is just something entirely different. All that talent and worse production that Bryce. That's crazy.

[Shotgun]

13 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Given the trade recently, I have to assume they are tanking. Tyrod is better than Fields. I mean, Mike White is probably better than Fields.

Dalton with both thumbs broken off would be better.