Young's Toughness

[Khyber53]

Maybe Bryce proved something to the fans, his teammates and himself yesterday. That was a helluva gutsy performance out there just to come back on the field after the first time. Then the second and the third. To also set the all-time Panthers single game passing record AND have two comeback game drives in a very hostile stadium. 

Can't do anything but give the guy his crown for this week. Tough kid, great performance.

Maybe he and Canales can open it up a bit more now.

[kungfoodude]

That's something I have said repeatedly about Young is that he is unquestionably tough. One of the worries coming into the league was that he was so small that he might not be able to take the beating the NFL offers. 

Truth be told, he has been more durable than his extremely large and physically imposing contemporaries in that 2023 NFL Draft. To date, he has only missed 2 career games due to injury compared to 4 games for CJ Stroud and 17 games for Anthony Richardson. 

[Rastlet]

56 minutes ago, TheBigKat said:

The young man was screaming in pain, he could have easily sat out the rest of the game but he taped that bitch up and said let’s roll. Kid’s a gamer 

That's called toradol.

[Donald LaFell]

Can’t do anything but give him respect for that performance. He can hold his head high. He’s got heart.

[OldhamA]

8 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's something I have said repeatedly about Young is that he is unquestionably tough. One of the worries coming into the league was that he was so small that he might not be able to take the beating the NFL offers. 

Truth be told, he has been more durable than his extremely large and physically imposing contemporaries in that 2023 NFL Draft. To date, he has only missed 2 career games due to injury compared to 4 games for CJ Stroud and 17 games for Anthony Richardson. 

I wouldn't question Richardson's toughness, but he does seem remarkably injury prone.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, OldhamA said:

I wouldn't question Richardson's toughness, but he does seem remarkably injury prone.

I would question his toughness pretty considerably after removing himself from a game because he was tired. That's about as baby soft as you can get as an NFL QB.

But I do understand your point is that toughness isn't durability. That's more so what I was talking about, was durability. 

[MechaZain]

9 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That's something I have said repeatedly about Young is that he is unquestionably tough. One of the worries coming into the league was that he was so small that he might not be able to take the beating the NFL offers. 

Truth be told, he has been more durable than his extremely large and physically imposing contemporaries in that 2023 NFL Draft. To date, he has only missed 2 career games due to injury compared to 4 games for CJ Stroud and 17 games for Anthony Richardson. 

Yeah this is the big irony of the whole saga. Everyone acted like it was the only question mark for him but it's been the least of our worries.

[Panthering]

BY has a lot of faults but toughness is not one of them. He's been durable in comparison this peers too. 

[Carolina Cajun]

yesterday was finally the day I've waited for.  He became the leader.  He was given a Captain patch from the day he walked in the building even with him NEVER having done anything.  Yea he did the right things, he high fived everyone as they came off the field, he was a supportive guy but that doesnt make you a leader.  Those a good qualities for a leader, but that doesnt make you a leader.

Yesterday, coming out with a reaggravation of that ankle injury, then coming back in and delivering THAT performance WHILE injured...thats the kind of thing that elevates the play of those around them and THATS what a leader does.  Its the stuff Cam did constantly.  You saw him run over 2-3 guys get banged up then get right back in the huddle and go, and that elevates the people around you.  When Bryce is going out and performing at a high level while injured, guys go "I will be willing to take that shot across the middle" or "I will fight for that extra yard".  For the first time in the Bryce Young era, he became the leader he has to be for the team to win.

[Carolina Cajun]

15 minutes ago, Panthering said:

BY has a lot of faults but toughness is not one of them. He's been durable in comparison this peers too. 

his big flaw in durability is he HAS to learn to slide.  Go take little league base sliding lessons if needed because one day one of those awkward dives is gonna get him knocked out.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, Carolina Cajun said:

yesterday was finally the day I've waited for.  He became the leader.  He was given a Captain patch from the day he walked in the building even with him NEVER having done anything.  Yea he did the right things, he high fived everyone as they came off the field, he was a supportive guy but that doesnt make you a leader.  Those a good qualities for a leader, but that doesnt make you a leader.

Yesterday, coming out with a reaggravation of that ankle injury, then coming back in and delivering THAT performance WHILE injured...thats the kind of thing that elevates the play of those around them and THATS what a leader does.  Its the stuff Cam did constantly.  You saw him run over 2-3 guys get banged up then get right back in the huddle and go, and that elevates the people around you.  When Bryce is going out and performing at a high level while injured, guys go "I will be willing to take that shot across the middle" or "I will fight for that extra yard".  For the first time in the Bryce Young era, he became the leader he has to be for the team to win.

I don't think there was anything particularly that he did that made him better as a leader than just play very well. He has played very well before. 

In terms of leading by "example" or "play" than I suppose this was one of his best performances. 

In terms of playing through injuries or getting banged up....he has also done that before too. 

It's the play and/or results that were outside the norm, not really any of the other aspects. He's been a leader, he's been a cheerleader(for his teammates), he's come back from in game injuries, etc. He didn't do anything particularly new other than execute well. That's basically all he has ever really been lacking.

[Carolina Cajun]

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't think there was anything particularly that he did that made him better as a leader than just play very well. He has played very well before. 

In terms of leading by "example" or "play" than I suppose this was one of his best performances. 

In terms of playing through injuries or getting banged up....he has also done that before too. 

It's the play and/or results that were outside the norm, not really any of the other aspects. He's been a leader, he's been a cheerleader(for his teammates), he's come back from in game injuries, etc. He didn't do anything particularly new other than execute well. That's basically all he has ever really been lacking.

So yes, him having his best game as a pro was a big part, but besides that him doing it while injured, while coming back into the game is a big difference.  Yea he has come back and played in games when injured...but he also in those cases have come back in and stunk up the joint like so many times he has in the past and THAT is what makes it different.  

[Butterflyj30]

Bryce is really tough

 

 

[kungfoodude]

10 minutes ago, Carolina Cajun said:

So yes, him having his best game as a pro was a big part, but besides that him doing it while injured, while coming back into the game is a big difference.  Yea he has come back and played in games when injured...but he also in those cases have come back in and stunk up the joint like so many times he has in the past and THAT is what makes it different.  

I mean, I am not in the heads of every one of his teammates but I would wager the ability to play through an injury does inspire confidence but probably not as much as the ability to put up the performance he did yesterday. If he would do that more, injured or healthy, I am pretty sure his teammates would definitely have a ton of faith in him.

Which, for all we know they always have. We aren't intimately familiar with the general thoughts of his teammates nor probably will we ever be. 

This is just one of those speculative things that I don't tend to argue to vehemently about or even put much stock in simply because the unknowns are massive and the knowns are very small. There is anecdotal evidence in the way of public comments or teammate body language(which is very interpretive anyway) but aside from that the public is almost always very shielded from the true thoughts on specific players. 

Winning and playing well seems to cure all the ails. Hopefully that just continues and this isn't really a debate at all.