I’m not sure people understand how fuging bad it is

[Waldo]

10 minutes ago, hepcat said:

 

Ugh the team’s decision not to develop a backup QB is just infuriating. Dalton is 38 years old. Drafting a QB last year would have just been justified to have a BACKUP on the up and up. Every time this team takes a step forward they find another way to take a step or two backward. 

Yup. It's crazy they brought back Dalton. You have a QB in year 3 so instead of brining in a developmental backup they bring back the emotional support QB who can't even make it through a game healthy or even decent play. Totally normal stuff

[pantherj]

Young is the kind of QB who will go as far as the team drags him 90% of the time. And once in a long while he'll explode and light the opposing team up. That is not anywhere near where we need to be as a team. What' worse is that we've won way too many games this season due to an extremely easy schedule. So we can't select a top QB in the draft, and a free agent QB is usually not the answer. 

The Panthers fell victim to a long stretch of bad QBs coming out of college. Even if we had made different moves and selected any number of different QBs coming out, we still would have ended up with a bust most likely. Bryce is a bust. Tua is a bust. Zach Wilson? Yikes. Trey Lance. Justin Fields. Mac Jones. Kenny Picket. CJ Stroud. My point is that a lot of teams were devastated by this stretch of bad QBs coming out of college, but we were dumb enough to trade the farm for one of them. 

The smart move? Tale the 2 first round picks from the Rams for Burns, and keep CMC. Sit tight. Whatever QB falls in your lap in the draft, take him. Then use the other two first round picks to build up the o-line on the cheap. This isn't Morning GMing. I said take the Rams deal at the time. We have not had a good GM ever in franchise history. 

No more trading up for QBs. Clearly is a total guessing game. Stay put. Trade vets for draft picks and start the rebuilding process with a new GM and new coaches. Cut Bryce and bring him back on a vet min deal. Then cut him again for being trash. He's done here if I had any say. 

 

[UnluckyforSome]

Nothing will change with the qb situation until Tepper is convinced Young is not viable. Until that point, it will be Young. During that time, any shortcomings of Young will be because he does not have the necessary supporting cast, and/or coaches are failing him with faulty schemes and defective gameplans. 

So, until Tepper is out, Young is in.

[hepcat]

1 hour ago, Waldo said:

Yup. It's crazy they brought back Dalton. You have a QB in year 3 so instead of brining in a developmental backup they bring back the emotional support QB who can't even make it through a game healthy or even decent play. Totally normal stuff

Bringing back Dalton was fine but it never should have been the only option. Now we’re in a situation where if Young doesn’t play, they’re potentially putting a practice squad QB in the starting lineup. Should never happen. 

[Waldo]

16 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Bringing back Dalton was fine but it never should have been the only option. Now we’re in a situation where if Young doesn’t play, they’re potentially putting a practice squad QB in the starting lineup. Should never happen. 

Dalton was washed last year. 2 years in a row he had 1 ok game and then showed how bad it was and that was with all the resting and still getting easily hurt. There is nothing fine about using roster spots for guys who are so obviously washed, especially when their vontravt is up and it can be naturally ended. If it was fine then they woukd have another playable QB on the roster. Maybe a guy who could do hail marries and QB sneaks for the other QB mistake. 

They went cheap and dumb so now they have a PS scrub that's option B and no help whatsoever. 

Edited 18 minutes ago by Waldo

[hepcat]

1 minute ago, Waldo said:

Dalton was washed last year. 2 years in a row he had 1 ok game and then showed how bad it was and that was with all the resting and still getting easily hurt. There is nothing fine about using roster spots for guys who are so obviously washed, especially when their vontravt is up and it can be naturally ended. If it was fine then they woukd have another playable QB on the roster. Maybe a guy who could do hail marries and QB sneaks for the other QB mistake. 

They went cheap and dumb so now they have a PS scrub that's option B and no help whatsoever. 

But that’s the thing, I’m not saying he should be on the roster NOW, but you re-sign Dalton in the offseason and he’s at least around for training camp and preseason. Then you have Young and a rookie, and Dalton is there to mentor and compete for the backup spot. If the rookie shows enough promise you can cut Dalton before the season. If not, rookie gets mysteriously IRed after a preseason game and we’re in the same situation we are now. But at least they tried to improve the backup position. Neither spot had any competition since the infamous Baker vs Darnold battle.

[Waldo]

2 minutes ago, hepcat said:

But that’s the thing, I’m not saying he should be on the roster NOW, but you re-sign Dalton in the offseason and he’s at least around for training camp and preseason. Then you have Young and a rookie, and Dalton is there to mentor and compete for the backup spot. If the rookie shows enough promise you can cut Dalton before the season. If not, rookie gets mysteriously IRed after a preseason game and we’re in the same situation we are now. But at least they tried to improve the backup position. Neither spot had any competition since the infamous Baker vs Darnold battle.

That's not why they signed Dalton tho. They signed him because he is cheap, because he is washed, and because they didn't want a viable option B other than Dalton level. That's also part of why it wasn't fine. Their first 2 years together he was mentor and he was a strategic block this year. 

You know who that guy your talking g about was this year? Plumber lol

[mrcompletely11]

32 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Bringing back Dalton was fine but it never should have been the only option. Now we’re in a situation where if Young doesn’t play, they’re potentially putting a practice squad QB in the starting lineup. Should never happen. 

How was bringing back Dalton "fine"

[UnluckyforSome]

3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

How was bringing back Dalton "fine"

But he was Young's mentor and buddy! You didn't want to hinder his development, did you?