The slide debate

[Butterflyj30]

He just admitted he did it because he knew we didn't have any timeouts what a creep

In his postgame presser Tyler Shough said he “sold” being hurt after the Ransom’s hit because he knew they were out of timeouts. “I may have sold a little bit because I know we didn't have any timeouts. So, I mean, it definitely hurt, but I was good. And we had to be in that scenario. We were going to clock it.”

 

(4) Carolina Blitz on X: "In his postgame presser Tyler Shough said he “sold” being hurt after the Ransom’s hit because he knew they were out of timeouts. “I may have sold a little bit because I know we didn't have any timeouts. So, I mean, it definitely hurt, but I was good. And we had to be in that" / X

[PNW_PantherMan]

47 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I know the they'll never do it but honestly I'd just get rid of the slide. If you're a runner, run. Don't wanna get hit, don't run. We'll protect you as a QB in the pocket but once you scramble outside of that pocket you're just another runner and that's how we're gonna treat you.

Russell Wilson never got hit hard and he didn't slide.  He just went to the ground like a belly flop.

Edited 8 hours ago by PNW_PantherMan

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

More from John...

Belichick was famously known for taking league penalty rules and twisting them to take advantage.

He's far from the only one. 

While momentum was an obvious issue, he did NOT have to blow him up. 

 

You can't tell me that as athletic as these guys are, Ransom could not twisted his body to avoid a square hit? Really?  Dude was CLEARLY going for a kill shot.  Any other point prior in the game, sure, try to knock the snot out of a guy to jar the ball loose.  Zero situational awareness.

[rodeo]

The whole thing reminds me of when Mike Vick would fake a slide and then continue for more yards. It's all designed to take advantage of the rules limiting how defenders can interact with QBs. It's weasel tactics but it's legal.

[PNW_PantherMan]

The slide has failed at keeping QBs safe.  The correct move is to remove it from the game but it’ll never happen.  There’s other ways to avoid getting hit.

I don’t agree that it’s reasonable for defenders in the current state.

[Mage]

Insane that people are actually defending this lol

[Mage]

Why not just have RBs slide on every single RB Dive?  

QBs should not be allowed to slide as a designated runner on a play designed to go right up the middle and then expect the defender to stop what he is doing in a millisecond.  It is absolutely BS.  

[Mage]

21 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

While momentum was an obvious issue, he did NOT have to blow him up. 

 

You can't tell me that as athletic as these guys are, Ransom could not twisted his body to avoid a square hit? Really?  Dude was CLEARLY going for a kill shot.  Any other point prior in the game, sure, try to knock the snot out of a guy to jar the ball loose.  Zero situational awareness.

If ya'll think that is a kill shot, then holy crap lol

[Mage]

I'm fuming about this play still.  QBs should not be rewarded for these decisions.

And I can't believe people think it is reasonable to expect a defender, in an important moment of the game, to react in less than a second to what a QB, who has established himself as a running QB in this league, may do.  

https://x.com/fsh733/status/2000362698471768161?s=20

He went for the tackle at the same time Shough began to slide.  

We're not talking about a guy scrambling out of the pocket.  HE WAS THE DESIGNATED RUNNER! And it wasn't even a big hit.

Just one of the most BS ways to decide a game that I have ever seen. 

 

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, Mage said:

Insane that people are actually defending this lol

I mean, the rules are the rules.   Slides are legal.  You blow up a sliding QB and it's called every single time in the scenario Shough was in. 

Should QBs be allowed to slide? Do I like that rule? No.  Because I think sliding actually puts QBs in greater risk of serious injury and puts defenders in a horrible spot. 

But as far as what happened Sunday? There was no other way for the refs to call it different than they did. 

[Basbear]

There needs to be a signal the QB does before he slides, that's about the only solution. Its beyond unfair to a 4.4 275 edge man-beast sprinting 10 yards away to FULL-stop while at full speed at a last second slide cause the QB is protecting himself. 

SImilar to the punt returner and the fair catch, that's at least allows those 4.3 LBs to not murder the punt returner. The QB... BEFORE he starts to slide...... needs to take his off hand and point at the ground or some other signal.

Do Roger, do it!!

[Mr. Scot]

54 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

While momentum was an obvious issue, he did NOT have to blow him up. 

 

You can't tell me that as athletic as these guys are, Ransom could not twisted his body to avoid a square hit? Really?  Dude was CLEARLY going for a kill shot.  Any other point prior in the game, sure, try to knock the snot out of a guy to jar the ball loose.  Zero situational awareness.

Try it.

[45catfan]

8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Try it.

I was a pretty good athlete in my day and yes, you can change your bodies trajectory while in the air. Funny gymnastics is literally based on contorting one's body while in the air. Look, he probably couldn't avoid the hit altogether, but he didn't even attempt avoid it.  In that picture, he was obviously laying the wood, the opposite of trying to check up on a tackle.

[Pantherxtreme]

1 hour ago, Mage said:

Why not just have RBs slide on every single RB Dive?  

QBs should not be allowed to slide as a designated runner on a play designed to go right up the middle and then expect the defender to stop what he is doing in a millisecond.  It is absolutely BS.  

1000 percent agree