Why does Bryce get the blame?

[GoobyPls]

1 hour ago, PantherChris said:

Guessing you havent watched any bucs games his left shoulder is f*cked up he cant throw more than 25 yards without tweaking it and leaving for several plays 

Can’t throw 25 yards? lol he just threw a bomb to Evans on Thursday, you do know it’s not his throwing shoulder.

[strato]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

You sure about that? 

People placing the most blame on Bryce for this loss? Or just some? Because I see Canales getting roasted. Play calling. I see Evero getting roasted. 
 

I see people saying Bryce had a meh Bryce game and complaining about specific shortcomings like the sneak situation, the dropping back so far on the sack, and stuff like that. Not saying HE was THE reason we lost. 
 

For me, I just want out of the Bryce deal and felt like saying so. I never wanted in. We have hit the ceiling of what we can be with him. Meh. 

[Mr. Scot]

7 hours ago, strato said:

People placing the most blame on Bryce for this loss? Or just some? Because I see Canales getting roasted. Play calling. I see Evero getting roasted. 

I see people saying Bryce had a meh Bryce game and complaining about specific shortcomings like the sneak situation, the dropping back so far on the sack, and stuff like that. Not saying HE was THE reason we lost. 

For me, I just want out of the Bryce deal and felt like saying so. I never wanted in. We have hit the ceiling of what we can be with him. Meh. 

I do too, but I'm not denying reality in the process.

If I wanted to make an argument to move on from Mitchell ,(I don't, but for argument's sake) and among my main debate points were that he was too short and hasn't caught a pass this season, would you accept those as valid points? 

[mrcompletely11]

8 hours ago, mrBdawg said:

Who is laughing at Lamar, Mahomes, Rodger’s not running the sneak themselves? They just have a tight end do it.

Why the fug is that not an option for this team if Bryce can’t do it? It’s is such a tired narrative that it negatively affects the team and is some huge flaw.

We could even do a tush push with Bryce and have him find a tiny gap. Then Tremble can shove him through it. Boom, now we’ve turned his size into an unstoppable weapon. Tush Push 2.0

This is called next level copium. When the motherfuging head coach comes out and says a qb sneak is not an option due to his size and you still feel the need to do this post.   I dont pull for bans but when it eventually comes down on you I will smile a bit for sure because this poo is just cluttering the board at this point

[frankw]

8 hours ago, mrBdawg said:

Who is laughing at Lamar, Mahomes, Rodger’s not running the sneak themselves? They just have a tight end do it.

Why the fug is that not an option for this team if Bryce can’t do it? It’s is such a tired narrative that it negatively affects the team and is some huge flaw.

We could even do a tush push with Bryce and have him find a tiny gap. Then Tremble can shove him through it. Boom, now we’ve turned his size into an unstoppable weapon. Tush Push 2.0

You know full well those are dubious comparisons at best because none of the QB's you mentioned are also the smallest QB in the league. Bryce Young is like it or not working from a disadvantage in just about every facet on an NFL field and that is why we need things to go perfect for him in order for him to have a productive day let alone for him to look like a top 10 QB. Some people just don't want to face the truth. Well you can only run from it for so long. Good luck with that.

[frankw]

10 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I do too, but I'm not denying reality in the process.

If I wanted to make an argument to move on from Mitchell ,(I don't, but for argument's sake) and among my main debate points were that he was too short and hasn't caught a pass this season, would you accept those as valid points? 

What does a 5th round TE afterthought nobody would bat an eye over if we released him have to do with the face of the franchise and the third highest paid player on the roster?

You are being ridiculous. Yet you wonder why your threads are getting deleted. Nobody wants the old you Mr. Scot. Take a hint. Turn the page.

[CRA]

9 hours ago, mrBdawg said:

Who is laughing at Lamar, Mahomes, Rodger’s not running the sneak themselves? They just have a tight end do it.

Why the fug is that not an option for this team if Bryce can’t do it? It’s is such a tired narrative that it negatively affects the team and is some huge flaw.

We could even do a tush push with Bryce and have him find a tiny gap. Then Tremble can shove him through it. Boom, now we’ve turned his size into an unstoppable weapon. Tush Push 2.0

Well, they aren’t laughing at Mahomes for not running the sneak…..because they know why KC now doesn’t.  Which would not be why Carolina doesn’t.  Every player in the field would know the difference in two situations. 

[Mr. Scot]

57 minutes ago, frankw said:

You know full well those are dubious comparisons at best because none of the QB's you mentioned are also the smallest QB in the league. Bryce Young is like it or not working from a disadvantage in just about every facet on an NFL field and that is why we need things to go perfect for him in order for him to have a productive day let alone for him to look like a top 10 QB. Some people just don't want to face the truth. Well you can only run from it for so long. Good luck with that.

They're examples of denying reality.

Here are some others:

,- Bryce is the worst QB in the NFL right now (no he isn't)

- Bryce is the worst QB in NFL history (no he's not; that's stupid)

- Well then Bryce is at least the the worst QB in the league over the last three years (nope, he's actually improved a lot since year one, which was a turbulent year anyway)

- That's not true, he hasn't Improved one but since his rookie year (oh come on)

- Well, even if he did, we can't win with him (obviously we can)

- Yeah but not unless everyone else is damn near perfect (think the game film from our wins this year would back that up?)

- Even so, we won those games in spite of him (officially the stupidest argument available)

And no, those are made up. You can find those quotes and other equally moronic statements in various threads around the board.

I know some folks always need to characterize whatever they're against as the worst thing in existence. It's hyperbole, and it's hypersilly.

Likewise, you've got some who are so absolutely emotional about it that even if you think Bryce isn't good enough (which I do) they'll still call you a stan if you don't agree to label him the lousiest passer in existence

It's just dumb, and it's not realistic.

But on the flipside, here are some statements which are;

- Bryce is indeed capable of both playing in, and winning, an NFL game. Not on a consistent level though, and consistency is huge.

- He is also capable of completing mid-range and even some deep passes; hell, he threw a beauty this past Sunday 

- Yes, he has improved over his rookie season and over last year. Arguing against that is disingenuous.

- Believe it or not, other players are the roster do make mistakes in games also. 

- And lastly, while I know it hurts some people's narrative and arguments, Bryce does indeed deserve credit for the winning games he's played in this season.

...

Every single one of those statements is true.

And since i acknowledge all that, I must be in favor of keeping him in place then

Except I'm not

...

Don't know of anyone who doesn't think he'll get the fifth year option. Not ready to guarantee anything beyond that, though.

So bottom line: Yeah, Bryce is fully expected to be our quarterback through next year.

If there were a logical, realistic path to acquire a more capable starter and transition Bryce to a backup I'd be elated, but that's a pipe dream.

This where we're at  I don't **** it, you don't like it, others don't either. But here We are so let's make the best of it that we can.

[frankw]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They're examples of denying reality.

Here are some others:

,- Bryce is the worst QB in the NFL right now (no he isn't)

- Bryce is the worst QB in NFL history (no he's not; that's stupid)

- Well then Bryce is at least the the worst QB in the league over the last three years (nope, he's actually improved a lot since year one, which was a turbulent year anyway)

- That's not true, he hasn't Improved one but since his rookie year (oh come on)

- Well, even if he did, we can't win with him (obviously we can)

- Yeah but not unless everyone else is damn near perfect (think the game film from our wins this year would back that up?)

- Even so, we won those games in spite of him (officially the stupidest argument available)

And no, those are made up. You can find those quotes and other equally moronic statements in various threads around the board.

I know some folks always need to characterize whatever they're against as the worst thing in existence. It's hyperbole, and it's hypersilly.

Likewise, you've got some who are so absolutely emotional about it that even if you think Bryce isn't good enough (which I do) they'll still call you a stan if you don't agree to label him the lousiest passer in existence

It's just dumb, and it's not realistic.

But on the flipside, here are some statements which are;

- Bryce is indeed capable of both playing in, and winning, an NFL game. Not on a consistent level though, and consistency is huge.

- He is also capable of completing mid-range and even some deep passes; hell, he threw a beauty this past Sunday 

- Yes, he has improved over his rookie season and over last year. Arguing against that is disingenuous.

- Believe it or not, other players are the roster do make mistakes in games also. 

- And lastly, while I know it hurts some people's narrative and arguments, Bryce does indeed deserve credit for the winning games he's played in this season.

...

Every single one of those statements is true.

And since i acknowledge all that, I must be in favor of keeping him in place then

Except I'm not

...

Don't know of anyone who doesn't think he'll get the fifth year option. Not ready to guarantee anything beyond that, though.

So bottom line: Yeah, Bryce is fully expected to be our quarterback through next year.

If there were a logical, realistic path to acquire a more capable starter and transition Bryce to a backup I'd be elated, but that's a pipe dream.

This where we're at  I don't **** it, you don't like it, others don't either. But here We are so let's make the best of it that we can.

Let's save each other the word salads and just see if we can agree on this. Bryce will be here in 2026 regardless. But outside of him we need a new QB room in 2026. We need a capable younger veteran and we need another young QB. We need new life and actual competition for the most consequential position on the field. If that does not happen we will assuredly get more of the same and the fans will begin another round of blasting each other instead of correctly identifying what is truly holding us back. Our decision makers.

Let's see what they end up doing. All we can do is wait.

[TN05]

14 hours ago, CRA said:

It’s simple. We all saw with our own eyes.

The best QB on the field Sunday was a 2nd round rookie in his 6th NFL start….and that QB is on a worse team. 

and Bryce was the #1 overall pick, is now in his 3rd season….and again, in both matchups the Saints QB was the best QB on the field.

We have a QB problem 

 

You didn't see with your own eyes because you didn't watch the game.

[Paa Langfart]

Is the OP Ms Tepper or Bryce's mom ?  That is the real question.

[kungfoodude]

He's an NFL starting QB. Of course he gets a lot of blame. The NFL has bent over backwards over the past 20+ years to make it as QB friendly a league as possible so their star QB's can succeed. Over the course of Bryce Young's career he has largely been in the bottom 5 QB's in each respective season he has played. Cumulatively, he is arguably the worst QB during that stretch by winning percentage and statistics.

So, yeah, he is going to get a lot of blame. The pieces around him keep getting better but he makes extremely marginal improvements, at best. That's really bad in an unbelievably QB friendly environment.

[Mr. Scot]

57 minutes ago, frankw said:

Let's save each other the word salads and just see if we can agree on this. Bryce will be here in 2026 regardless. But outside of him we need a new QB room in 2026. We need a capable younger veteran and we need another young QB. We need new life and actual competition for the most consequential position on the field. If that does not happen we will assuredly get more of the same and the fans will begin another round of blasting each other instead of correctly identifying what is truly holding us back. Our decision makers.

Let's see what they end up doing. All we can do is wait.

I suspect there'll be a significant gap between what we need and what we'll get.

Better backup? Yeah, probably.

Any form of competition for Bryce outside of a team ping pong tournament? Wouldn't bet on it. 

[CRA]

53 minutes ago, TN05 said:

You didn't see with your own eyes because you didn't watch the game.

Mimicking Mr. Scot is horrible strategy is not a good look.  But have at it.  I mean, there was no sound argument you can make against that post so i sort get that....but...

It must be a weird place to be so invested in defending a meh QB 24/7 as not meh when the bar is much higher.....that you got to gaslight and create alternate realities.